[Name?] Well, it's not much of a security risk anyway if your computer won't boot, now is it. :) I guess you have a choice; don't install them and have a WORKING PC (that may not be 'totally' secure), or install them and HAVE a totally secure PC, that WON'T boot! Personally, I'd rather have the former, and keep using my hardware and software firewalls, and AV program. It's not a "policy of my choosing", it's a "policy of necessity" since the computers were useless with these specific updates.
>OTOH, if you choose to install every patch (even none critical) at your >*working* PC, you take a certain risk. Well, that's exactly what I was saying hence the purpose of my post. (All the updates I mentioned except for the driver updates WERE "critical" updates). -Clint God Bless Us All Clint Hamilton, Owner http://OrpheusComputing.com � ----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 20.05.02 Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Clint Hamilton (aka "SCH") Time: 05:41 SCH> The last several patches/updates I installed from the windows SCH> update site (where it SCANS your PC for what is needed) SCH> rendered computers over here USELESS!! SCH> I am NEVER installing another MS update again!! I don't think that this is a good policy. By not installing patches (especially, security ones) you leave your computer with few or none defensive tactics against outside attacks. OTOH, if you choose to install every patch (even none critical) at your *working* PC, you take a certain risk. Back in the days when I had windows up and running, I used to install only the *critical* patches and silently ignored all the rest. -------------------------------------- Original message: > I'm posting this in hopes others can avoid some of the BS I > went through with the Windows update site. I HOPE, boy do I > hope, that someone from MS is on this list!!! > > The last several patches/updates I installed from the windows > update site (where it SCANS your PC for what is needed) > rendered computers over here USELESS!! I am > NEVER installing another MS update again!! MANY times > this has happened before. 4 times with so called "driver > updates" that for each respectively, rendered the sound card, > (ESS Allegro 4 channel PCI), video card (ATI AIW 128 Pro > 32mb AGP), Promise ATA 133 controller card, and on another > mobo the Promise integrated RAID, all USELESS!! > > Yet another time that comes to mind was another "driver > update" for the HPT 366 controller on a Soyo mobo. After > installing it, the ONLY way to removed the yellow marks > in the device manager it caused was a reformat! >:( And, > guess what, a few days after that, they FINALLY removed > if from their website, evidently I was among many that sent > them hate mail over this. > > As for the updates, at LEAST TWICE. Most recent being one > just added to the update site (for win98 users) "Q314147: > Security Update". After installing that POS, this PC would > NEVER BOOT!! Restoring the registry didn't even fix it! And > contrary to what the MS Jerks state, there IS NO > "uninstallation" for it!! Took me several hours to repair > what this update destroyed. Needless to say I did NOT > install it on any of the other PC's. The other two times was > for "Security Update, March 7, 2002" and "Security Update, > March 4, 2002". One or both of these caused OE to take a > FULL MINUTE to open and hang up the PC's during that period > of time! Was not just the computer either, it happened on > ALL of the computers over here. > > So everyone, BEWARE of updates from the windows update > site!!! DO NOT trust these imbeciles!! You'd think they'd > have the "intelligence" to TEST patches or drivers and make > sure they work before they upload them for millions to > "Contaminate" their computers with. Now I know why so many > hate M$ products and use Linux and MAC's!! If I'd have the > time to learn all over again a new OS and platform, I would > have changed long ago. > > All I can recommend is if you've gotten this far with their > updates not screwing anything up, STOP THERE! > The next time you reformat, or install a new HD, etc, only > install updates to the point where you are now! Unless > you have your HD 'mirrored' and can go back & restore > in a click, don't risk installing any new ones! (My > 'restore' backups I made unfortunately were a few > months old). -Clint ============= PCWorks Mailing List ================= Don't see your post? Check our posting guidelines & make sure you've followed proper posting procedures, http://pcworkers.com/rules.htm Contact list owner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Unsubscribing and other changes: http://pcworkers.com =====================================================
