Regarding your question about the cleaners; they don't need to be running all the time and yes, they just end up being resource hog if they do. You only need to execute them periodically when you want to do the cleaning. An exception is below.*
Regarding this: ------------- I'm sure the Launch Bar will survive; fortunately it only happens when I do a complete reboot (which is seldom; only when the computer slows down). One question was not answered. With all the cleanup programs available, how does one know which are doing what they should be doing and which are just going along for the ride (bars moving, files scrambling by, and nothing being accomplished). In other words, how do we test which ones are important? ------- I already answered that, below: > You'll just have to look in the options of each of them and > see if any of > them have any features to remove or set to default things > such as > toolbars. As in, run just one at a time and look around for what has changed. And like I said it may be easier, or also advisable to first check what I indicated above > in each program. The only type of "cleaners" I use are malware cleaners like those I mentioned previously, but apparently one of them keeps removing my "Links" toolbar on the IE toolbar and it shouldn't be doing that. I suspect it's possible for one that you are using to be doing a similar thing with the QL Toolbar. *IE Privacy Keeper is type of cleaner and I have it running all the time because it will keep my temp files folder, and IE cache and Cookies automatically clean when the last browser window is closed. (But it doesn't remove MRU types like AdAware and SpyBot). -Clint God Bless Clint Hamilton, Owner http://www.OrpheusComputing.com http://www.ComputersCustomBuilt.com http://Computer-Hardware-Sales-Consumer-Electronics-Sales.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harold B." And Clint is right and Hugh is right. So a third person asks, "How can they both be right?" ... and that third person is also right. And now, thanks to Hugh, I have an additional malware cleaner installed: "Windows Defender" http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/spyware/software/default.mspx - -- Harold > From: Clint> > You'll just have to look in the options of each of them and > see if any of > them have any features to remove or set to default things > such as > toolbars. I covered the icon issue in my post, but I don't > see it > below. - -Clint I know, Clint, and thanks. We'll continue with the icon problem in its own subject later (don't want to confuse the archives). > From: Hugh Vandervoort > I've occasionally wondered if you don't overdo the "squeaky > clean" aspect. > On the other hand, you're trying out all these programs for > the rest of > us, and it's much appreciated. Still, I suspect you spend > more time on > cleaning than computing:maybe we should get back to CSS > lessons, or a > Photoshop tutorial. And as usual, you are 100% on target. I should become more proficient in CSS coding, in Photoshop, in 1st Page (remember?), in all the many aspects of computer life. As the nun says in the story, Lilies of the Field, "so much to do, so much to do." And wisdom dictates that one's time has to be allocated very carefully, especially with the magnetic attraction that the computer has for many of us. It won't be long when we'll hear of a 12 step program called "Computer Anonymous" along with all the other anonymouses. And a second question ... when it comes to the malware cleaners, I keep both the AVG Control Center and ZoneAlarm open in the System Tray. Thinking that a computer works best when not overloading the SysTray, all others I apply only when I think its time for them. Is that the appropriate way of handling these cleaners? How do we know which "cleaners" should be kept open all the time? --- Harold > From: Clint > > Not visiting "as many murky places" helps. However, yes, > > you do need > > more than one anti-malware program....as many as possible. > > I've been > > saying this a long time. Not a single one of them will > > catch > > everything. I see it all the time. What SpyBot will miss, > > AdAware may > > find, and vice-versa, and the same with all the rest of > > them; > > SpySweeper, SpywareTerminator, etc., etc. Just one of them > > will catch > > something all the others will miss. - -Clint I second that ... DOWN with murky places !!! (three exclamation marks) --- Harold > From: Hugh Vandervoort > You've got a point, Clint, but I live in a world where people > don't have > the time or the savvy to use all these programs. The problems > I see most > often are caused by kids indiscriminately downloading, and > adults visiting > porn or gaming sites. In these cases I have found Spybot's > immunization > feature to be a big help, along with a little education about > the danger > of these habits. In most cases, Windows Defender is all > that's necessary. > The big advantage is that it runs and updates automatically, > and it's > free. I should add that my experiment with Windows One Care > is over. I > initially favored this suite for its all-in-one features > (Firewall, > > Spyware, AV, Backup and Tune-up) at a fair price ($50.00/yr) > but there > have been too many problems, and I'm dumping it and > recommending the same > to all my friends. The biggest problems are failure of the > auto-backup > program, and updates that break the whole suite. ============= PCWorks Mailing List ================= Don't see your post? Check our posting guidelines & make sure you've followed proper posting procedures, http://pcworkers.com/rules.htm Contact list owner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Unsubscribing and other changes: http://pcworkers.com =====================================================
