that's true, after making the question I thought that mainly the most  
hardcore guys stick to pd-van, because it's easier for them to adapt it to  
their needs, and there's more tradition with self-programming (enhancing  
the core package). but I would dare say that for many  
non-developper-users, pd-ext is much more used than pd-van. pd-ext is a  
couple of decimals behind pd-van (and the windows version even more, as  
the disk for it is out of order since last summer), but HC doesn't have a  
grant to work on pd-ext.

> yep, when you need to compile some stuff, pd-extended is not really made  
> for you.
> since i quite often have to use a very recent Gem version for my  
> project, (specially when i correct some Gem bugs when working on this  
> project), i must recompile Gem on the target machine, so using extended  
> is not really easy.
> using extended is ok when installing a project i made about 1 year ago...

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