Ah, I see - these are features then, not bugs!  My apologies for the noise - I 
wasn’t monitoring the dev list before, and didn’t know about the existing 
discussions : )

Cheers,
Kevin


> On Jul 24, 2017, at 9:29 AM, Dan Wilcox <danomat...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Ok, what's funny is that both of these points are things that people *wanted* 
> in feedback from the first test release. I'm not sure if I'm able to spend 
> another day tracking down too many details...but here we go.
> 
>>>> Thirdly, the Help Browser behaves unusually in multiple ways: first of 
>>>> all, it starts off with the top item double-selected (both blue highlight 
>>>> and dotted border to the blue highlight), but despite the double duty, you 
>>>> still have to click to select that item again in order to get the next 
>>>> column to show up.
>>> 
>>> That's normal and was the previous behavior. Hit enter or click.
>> 
>> In macOS 0.47-1 64-bit, there’s nothing that gets selected automatically 
>> when opening the Help Browser.  When I do click to select something, I don’t 
>> get the black dotted border on the blue highlight.
> 
> From feedback 
> (https://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2017-07/119363.html 
> <https://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2017-07/119363.html>):
> 
> - The first item that appears when entering a new directory for the first
> time is selected with a squared box, but it's not selected in blue, which
> is confusing because selection actually does takes place (i.e., if the item
> is not a directory, hitting the 'right' arrow will open it)
> 
> The black box is the keyboard focus highlight while the blue background is 
> the listbox active item. From this feedback I connected them. I'm guess you 
> prefer them not to be connected?
> 
> One issue is that on some versions of TK it seems as though that black box is 
> not displayed, so if you use the keyboard, you have no way of knowing where 
> you are, hence selection highlight follows keyboard.
> 
>>>> If you use the keyboard arrow keys to navigate the Help Browser, and have 
>>>> navigated to at least the second column, if you use the left-arrow to 
>>>> navigate back one column, then use the up- or down-arrow keys to browse 
>>>> the items in the current column, the right-most column doesn’t update its 
>>>> contents, instead retaining the contents it had previously, creating a 
>>>> visual mismatch, as seen in the screenshot.
>>> 
>>> That's also normal / previous behavior. Click or hit the right button to 
>>> update. If the browser updates whenever you navigate it goes a bit crazy 
>>> visually.
>> 
>> This is also not previous behavior for me: in macOS 0.47-1 64-bit, whichever 
>> column is to the right of the current selection always reflects the contents 
>> of the current selection (mimicking the behavior of the macOS Finder, as one 
>> example).
> 
> 
> It is previous behavior if you only click with the mouse and Pd 0.47 works 
> the same (I just downloaded it to make sure). Pd 0.47 doesn't have the 
> browser keyboard update and as soon as you start using the keyboard, yes 
> things can perhaps be out of sync if you're expectation is as you've stated. 
> Is this what you are referring to?
> 
> This is again related to showing where the keyboard focus is. I will see if 
> there is a happy medium...
> 
> --------
> Dan Wilcox
> @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika>
> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/>
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> 
> 
> 

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