Well, you are right in pointing out how Finder handles things. I have some 
changes which are *almost* there...

> On Jul 24, 2017, at 8:42 PM, Kevin Haywood <khayw...@ucsd.edu> wrote:
> 
> Ah, I see - these are features then, not bugs!  My apologies for the noise - 
> I wasn’t monitoring the dev list before, and didn’t know about the existing 
> discussions : )
> 
> Cheers,
> Kevin
> 
> 
>> On Jul 24, 2017, at 9:29 AM, Dan Wilcox <danomat...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:danomat...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Ok, what's funny is that both of these points are things that people 
>> *wanted* in feedback from the first test release. I'm not sure if I'm able 
>> to spend another day tracking down too many details...but here we go.
>> 
>>>>> Thirdly, the Help Browser behaves unusually in multiple ways: first of 
>>>>> all, it starts off with the top item double-selected (both blue highlight 
>>>>> and dotted border to the blue highlight), but despite the double duty, 
>>>>> you still have to click to select that item again in order to get the 
>>>>> next column to show up.
>>>> 
>>>> That's normal and was the previous behavior. Hit enter or click.
>>> 
>>> In macOS 0.47-1 64-bit, there’s nothing that gets selected automatically 
>>> when opening the Help Browser.  When I do click to select something, I 
>>> don’t get the black dotted border on the blue highlight.
>> 
>> From feedback 
>> (https://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2017-07/119363.html 
>> <https://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2017-07/119363.html>):
>> 
>> - The first item that appears when entering a new directory for the first
>> time is selected with a squared box, but it's not selected in blue, which
>> is confusing because selection actually does takes place (i.e., if the item
>> is not a directory, hitting the 'right' arrow will open it)
>> 
>> The black box is the keyboard focus highlight while the blue background is 
>> the listbox active item. From this feedback I connected them. I'm guess you 
>> prefer them not to be connected?
>> 
>> One issue is that on some versions of TK it seems as though that black box 
>> is not displayed, so if you use the keyboard, you have no way of knowing 
>> where you are, hence selection highlight follows keyboard.
>> 
>>>>> If you use the keyboard arrow keys to navigate the Help Browser, and have 
>>>>> navigated to at least the second column, if you use the left-arrow to 
>>>>> navigate back one column, then use the up- or down-arrow keys to browse 
>>>>> the items in the current column, the right-most column doesn’t update its 
>>>>> contents, instead retaining the contents it had previously, creating a 
>>>>> visual mismatch, as seen in the screenshot.
>>>> 
>>>> That's also normal / previous behavior. Click or hit the right button to 
>>>> update. If the browser updates whenever you navigate it goes a bit crazy 
>>>> visually.
>>> 
>>> This is also not previous behavior for me: in macOS 0.47-1 64-bit, 
>>> whichever column is to the right of the current selection always reflects 
>>> the contents of the current selection (mimicking the behavior of the macOS 
>>> Finder, as one example).
>> 
>> 
>> It is previous behavior if you only click with the mouse and Pd 0.47 works 
>> the same (I just downloaded it to make sure). Pd 0.47 doesn't have the 
>> browser keyboard update and as soon as you start using the keyboard, yes 
>> things can perhaps be out of sync if you're expectation is as you've stated. 
>> Is this what you are referring to?
>> 
>> This is again related to showing where the keyboard focus is. I will see if 
>> there is a happy medium...

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Dan Wilcox
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