Sure, we're working on that, Ben is, actually.

But let me be clear to all in here, the "# stuff" is not a feature

Em ter., 8 de jul. de 2025 às 13:30, Dan Wilcox <danomat...@gmail.com>
escreveu:

> @Alex: Could you pull out the minimum changes you think would improve the
> color support as it is while leaving other things (features)
>

Sure, we're working on that, Ben is, actually.

But let me be clear to all in here, the "# stuff" is not a "feature". On
the contrary. The idea is to restrict the functionality and only use a
hexcolor format. This would be easier on the Pd side cause we can check the
format for invalid requests and prevent tcl/tk errors. This would also be
easy/better for Pd forks like Pd-L@ork and PlugData that don't use tcl/tk,
and also for iemguis. In order for not to mess with this and leave as is,
unrestricted, I'm not sure it's possible to prevent those tcl/tk errors,
and we'd have to add functionality to iemguis so they also take any symbols
for colors.

for later, ie. fix things but leave IEM guis as is? I think handling
> console and other things is best left separately.
>

I guess we can make a PR with all these requests, with the color
restriction for last. The iemguis could be separate and this one should be
considered first. If it's taken as it is, then I think it'd also be a
no-brainer grabbing the iemguis loading Pd colors as the default. Handling
those others separately as well also seems cool.

cheers


>
> On Jul 8, 2025, at 6:13 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres <por...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Em ter., 8 de jul. de 2025 às 05:11, Dan Wilcox <danomat...@gmail.com>
> escreveu:
>
>> I think most of what's in the color fix PR should be considered, except
>> maybe the # stuff for now.
>>
>
> Yeah, I guess this is the "biggest" one and more controversial, and it's
> tied to the iemguis issue. It should require a better discussion. I edited
> the first comment/description and improved the clarity a bit. I think
> they're all no-brainers and easy to incorporate. But dealing with the
> iemguis is still not ready and tricky. If you all want symbol, I can also
> try to let iemguis take color names like "black", "magenta" and "mistyrose".
>
> Now, even though this takes care of most issues, there are still a couple
> more I wanted to add. At least one seems quite important, and it was
> brought up by you Dan, the ability to also set the blinking text edit
> marker. But that might be out of my scope... I'd also like to see Pd's
> console window take Pd's colors, but that seems even more tricky to me.
>
> cheers
>
>
>> Introducing colors will be great and remove a sore spot for many and the
>> things addressed in the PR really refine these changes IMO:
>>
>> https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/2646
>>
>> enohp ym morf tnes
>> -----------
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>> danomatika.com
>> robotcowboy.com
>>
>>
>> On Jul 8, 2025, at 9:55 AM, Miller Puckette via Pd-dev <
>> pd-dev@lists.iem.at> wrote:
>>
>> There is too much stuff in there for me to check it carefully... I'd
>> have to put out a new test release and wait a few more weeks.  What are the
>> urgently needed fixes?  (patch cords of course.)
>>
>> There are plenty of other color _features_ we should have but I want to
>> just deal with the things that are truly needed :)
>>
>> cheers
>> M
>>
>>
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