That's very sound advice, Darek! I followed(/am following) a very similar trajectory.
What I'd add to that: Above all, don't think that you need to only use Pd for everything. It's a great tool, but can bog you down from truly creating things if you are stuck reinventing the wheel every time you get the time and urge to make music/art. It's perfectly acceptible to use Pd for its strengths, but then another application when Pd is less-than-adequate (or requiring dozens of hours to make it adequate). I recall a quote from Miller that paraphrased said something to the effect that Pd is like the bash shell in UNIX. You wouldn't write a word processor in a bash script, but it's great for rapidly prototyping a quick and useful solution. ~Kyle On 2/20/07, Derek Holzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Jared, > > for what it's worth, I've been working with PD for years and I still > can't read most other people's patches ;-) > > Everybody has their own style, their own "handwriting", and some are > more readable than others. Diving right into somebody's finished patch > is pretty difficult for an experienced user, and almost impossible for a > beginner, I'd say! If you were trying to learn German, would you start > by reading Goethe? > > I learned PD by reproducing things which I understood already in stages, > such as going from a quad-panner, a mixer, a sampler and a > delay-network, to complex feedback-FM, a granular synthesizer and an > algorithmic sequencer...etc etc. First I played around with the built-in > examples, then I made simple things and basic utilities. After that I > went back to the examples I skipped and figured out what I did wrong, > and then I moved on to "porting" things from other apps I had used > before and knew the structure of (AudioMulch units, Reaktor instruments, > various VSTs, etc). These kinds of exercises are the ones I think work > best. Start from a point you know, and figure out how to do it with the > most basic objects in PD. If core PD doesn't do it, then it's time to > reach for an external. > > best, > d. > > jared wrote: > > > obvious similarities, but the more time I spend with PD the more they > > feel like different beasts. I will definitely go back and start from > > square one with PD. > > > -- > derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl > ---Oblique Strategy # 77: > "Give way to your worst impulse" > > _______________________________________________ > [email protected] mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > -- http://theradioproject.com http://perhapsidid.blogspot.com (((())))(()()((((((((()())))()(((((((())()()())()))) (())))))(()))))))))))))(((((((((((()()))))))))((()))) ))(((((((((((())))())))))))))))))))__________ _____())))))(((((((((((((()))))))))))_______ ((((((())))))))))))((((((((000)))oOOOOOO _______________________________________________ [email protected] mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
