hi! > > It seems that pdmtl really needs to have multi-level namespaces. > Perhaps in May we could work on making that happen. > > .hc
Do you mean something such as [pdmtl/gems/duplicate] or [gems/pix/sobel] ? Both already possible. Maybe you mean [import pdmtl/gems] and then [duplicate] ? Ah ! very likely, I see. Short class names for externals/abstraction tend to lead to name clashes. On the other hand, short class names help to fight against RSI. Help fight agains http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Repetitive_strain_injury Get up and stretch your back !! ;-) aalex -------------- 2007/4/19, Hans-Christoph Steiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > On Apr 18, 2007, at 10:33 PM, Alexandre Quessy wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > 2007/4/18, Kyle Klipowicz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> I'm sorry, I don't have [gems/duplicate] in the version of pdmtl that > >> I just downloaded. It looks like a neat library though, will it be > >> included in pd-extended soon? > > > > https://devel.goto10.org/pdmtl/browser/trunk/pdmtl/gems/ > > duplicate.pd !! > > > > I got to put it in the pd-extended build system, yes... It's just that > > I am having troubles with the Makefile. I need to translate something > > like "cp -r * /usr/lib/pd/extra/" into some recursive Makefiles unsing > > "install -d" and such... > > > > See http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg01399.html > > > > Any help around ? I think the best way to do it would be to copy > > makefiles around and then : > > > > find . -type d | xargs cd && make; done > > > > Or something... got to test. I will have more time in May. :) > > It seems that pdmtl really needs to have multi-level namespaces. > Perhaps in May we could work on making that happen. > > .hc > > > > > > a > > > > > >> > >> I will try to experiment with [repeat], since it is getting > >> tedious to > >> manipulate more than 5 or 6 separate objects in the 'gemiverse.' > >> > >> ~Kyle > >> > >> On 4/18/07, Alexandre Quessy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> Hi, > >>> Consider using the [repeat] object along with [separator]... > >>> See [gems/duplicate] in the SVN repository of the > >>> http://wiki.dataflow.ws/PdMtlAbstractions > >>> > >>> a > >>> > >>> 2007/4/17, Cypod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >>>> Roman is right, just parenting down the chain, with small sphere > >>>> (proxy > >>>> geometry) to change the pivot control, from the center to one end. > >>>> > >>>> where separators come into play is to branch off arms and legs > >>>> from the main > >>>> body. The body's transform will still control the arm, but sibling > >>>> hierarchies wont affect each other. That way you can move the > >>>> body of the > >>>> character and the arms don't fall off, but if you rotate the > >>>> left shoulder > >>>> it wont affect the right shoulder or legs. > >>>> > >>>> Thats how I created the dancing man patch, from a wow (World of > >>>> War-craft) > >>>> character that my friend build. Its still somewhat crude, but > >>>> fun to be able > >>>> to control characters in real-time during your performance. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On 4/17/07, Kyle Klipowicz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>>>> Ok, yes. After tinkering last night a bit I found that it is > >>>>> indeed > >>>>> this simple. For some reason I was getting confused, based upon > >>>>> where > >>>>> I was putting the separators for different branches of the > >>>>> structure. > >>>>> I like this top-down approach. It makes it easy to add global > >>>>> modifiers at the top of the gem chain. > >>>>> > >>>>> ~Kyle > >>>>> > >>>>> On 4/17/07, Roman Haefeli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>>>>> On Mon, 2007-04-16 at 23:32 -0500, Kyle Klipowicz wrote: > >>>>>>> Ok, that was a dumb question, after looking at separator. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> But it raises some questions for me: is the best way to position > >>>>>>> multi-geo unit, say of a sphere being orbited by smaller > >>>>>>> spheres, best > >>>>>>> accomplished by using a lot of additions, or is there a way > >>>>>>> to chain > >>>>>>> translate objects? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> if i understand you correctly, this is _very_ simple to > >>>>>> achieve. here an > >>>>>> example of a renderchain: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> [gemhead] > >>>>>> | > >>>>>> [translateXYZ] <- translate the whole planet system > >>>>>> around > >>>>>> | > >>>>>> [sphere 1] <- sun > >>>>>> | > >>>>>> [rotateXYZ] <- rotate around Y-axis > >>>>>> | > >>>>>> [translateXYZ 2 0 0 ] > >>>>>> | > >>>>>> [sphere 0.1] <- earth > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> you can also add the moon: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> | > >>>>>> [rotateXYZ] <- rotate around Y-axis > >>>>>> | > >>>>>> [translate 0.2] > >>>>>> | > >>>>>> [sphere 0.03] > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> hope, that makes it clear how to 'resolve dependencies' in gem. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> roman > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>> ___________________________________________________________ > >>>>>> Der frühe Vogel fängt den Wurm. 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