ok, so you are right. my reading capabilities get worse from day to day... one more question. I read Pd (c) 1997-2005 The Regents of the University of California? which means the regents of the UC own the rights on Pd??? marius.
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > > On Mar 7, 2008, at 9:14 PM, marius schebella wrote: > >> Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: >>> On Mar 7, 2008, at 7:33 PM, marius schebella wrote: >>>> Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: >>>> >>>>> I think it is unlikely that there is a noticeable difference in >>>>> double-blind testing. I am sure that people hear differences >>>>> between them, but I am guessing that those differences are inside >>>>> the brain, rather than outside :). >>>> >>>> yes, that seems obvious to me too, but this discussion is about the >>>> small chance, that there might be a difference in some small details >>>> that effectively make a difference.. >>>> >>>>> Also, consider that MSP started from Pd code. >>>> >>>> I thought pd came out later (1997) and was completely rewritten with >>>> fundamental differences (esp. when it comes to fft and stuff like >>>> that). >>> Max didn't have MSP until Pd came along, it was all about >>> manipulating MIDI. Check out the copyright splash screen, it says >>> "portions based on Pd 1997-2005". >> >> no, it says Pd and MSP are based on ideas in Max/FTS, an advanced DSP >> platform (C) IRCAM. > > Look at the line above that one. Max/FTS did have synthesis, but it was > on a separate DSP CPU. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max/MSP > > "Max has a number of extensions and incarnations; most notably, a set of > audio extensions to the software appeared in 1997, ported from Pure > Data. Called MSP (short for either Max Signal Processing or the initials > of Miller S. Puckette, the author of both Max and Pd), this "add-on" > package for Max allowed for the manipulation of digital audio signals in > real-time" > > .hc > >> >> I learned in school (but that was loooong ago in 1997) that miller >> wrote max and max/fts at IRCAM in the mid 80s, max already had signal >> processing in 1990. then he jumped off, david zicarelli sticked with >> the existing code and developed msp and miller rewrote pd from scratch >> in 1996/97. >> >> I think max/msp took also code from pd, but that was later. >> marius. > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Using ReBirth is like trying to play an 808 with a long stick. -David > Zicarelli > > > _______________________________________________ [email protected] mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
