>> I meant the latest usable (which I have installed) builds of >> pd-extended, and the last version of >> pd-vanilla-without-documentation-about-data-strucutures-and-so-on (also >> being unfair). >> I haven't being using pd too much these days for sound, but in the last >> builds of pd-ext I didn't notice anything that was behind pd-van. >> before I was using pd-van .41 because of the symbol grab feature in the >> data structures (which I only know about because I requested it, it's >> not documented). as this feature is now possible in the current build >> of pd-ext, I notice no differences between them. > > ok, but this seems to be a bit subjective evaluation.
it's not scientific at all, and I haven't been following the news. > by any chance, you are not running an amd64 system? (this is getting hot > ground for me, as i am not so sure whether PdX actually does have some > x86_64 patches incorporated; but chances are low....) my new desktop is a 64 d-core intel, I have windows and ubuntu there. it's still new, so I didn't work much with it so far. in windows works well, but I can't get ubuntu to access my quite normal home network, so I didn't got further on that. I can do some testing, if you want (just tell me what to do). > and you are probably also not very interested in audio-computation on > demand... my stuff isn't the most demanding in terms of cpu. I either play in my trio www.endphase.net (our patches aren't that heavy), or for my private composition tools, which in these days do more information than audio processing. I never even opened up a vst plugin in pd so far, and I'm happy with latency of 70ms in windows for now (didn't fiddled enough in ubuntu to try to bring it lower than that). > after all, if you don't need all the list-stuff and > multiple-dollarg-expansion ($1-$2), you might as well not notice a > difference between 0.39 and 0.40.... I can't even be sure of what you're talking about, so probably I don't (or maybe I would, if I was aware of it?). Were they properly documented somewhere? The one detail that made me stick to pd-van-.41 for a while was the "symbol" option in [struct] and the [set -symbol] feature (because of an important patch for me) - which I only know about because I asked for it (it's not documented, I think). Besides that I don't know exactly what are the benefits. But in a general remark I would say that pd-ext is making a very big step in improving the quality of the interface and its integration in the system (I speak mainly of windows) - as also with the developper community. That's an important step for users that aren't willing to make a big effort to stick with pd or have better things to do with their time [please don't bring up the "if they would really want it..." argument]. pd-van should check that out and try to catch up at some time as well (or just fuse into pd-ext, if there are no differences in quality - I'm not qualified to judge that). João _______________________________________________ [email protected] mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
