Hallo, IOhannes m zmoelnig hat gesagt: // IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > João Pais wrote: > > I meant the latest usable (which I have installed) builds of > > pd-extended, and the last version of > > pd-vanilla-without-documentation-about-data-strucutures-and-so-on (also > > being unfair). > > I haven't being using pd too much these days for sound, but in the last > > builds of pd-ext I didn't notice anything that was behind pd-van. before > > I was using pd-van .41 because of the symbol grab feature in the data > > structures (which I only know about because I requested it, it's not > > documented). as this feature is now possible in the current build of > > pd-ext, I notice no differences between them. > > ok, but this seems to be a bit subjective evaluation.
To add a rant to the subjective evaluation: For an installation I currently have to run Pd on a Mac. We chose pd-extended as it has a good integration into OS-X, and as some of the other installations that will be shown on that machine need the externals pd-extended has included. I don't need many externals, but the most important one isn't missing in pd-extended: pdlua, but as a "hardcore user" I could install it. But here we stumbled over another important difference between 0.40 and 0.41: EXTERN void class_set_extern_dir(t_symbol *s); was introduced to m_pd.h in 0.41, iirc. At least it's missing in 0.40. This function is used by pdlua to find lua-modules in the patch's directory instead of in the LUAPATH only, which becomes more important because it's overly complicated to start pd on OS-X (and on MS-Windows) from the command line in a certain working directory as I'm used to from Linux. Somehow I didn't manage to make the package.path trick work, which I myself suggested as a fix once on pd-list, so in the end we copied every lua-module to /usr/local/share/lua/5.1. As this installation involves 80-channel output, we also run jack, and cross our fingers that everything will hold up. In general I must say, working on the bloated OS-X is no joy for someone used to a snappy lean Linux system. If only the Fireface would support Linux... Rant end. ;) Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org__ _______________________________________________ [email protected] mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
