thanks for your replies. I really don't have much free time (sometimes the free time is already scheduled), and am not a bash/unix guru (although I'm not that dumb). but I really don't have the time/pacience to go (again!!) to visit x forums to know why this flag gives an error while compiling/building, what happens to the guy that has the computer model 1234x while I have the model 1234y, ... you know the drill.
so, I think I'll stick with ubuntu 8.10, install the -rt kernel (through synaptic), and install all programs separately (no studio-bundle): jack, PDs, ardour, hdsp+multiface ... (by the way, I also have a tablet. but I have already some installation guides from 7.04) btw, I also wanted to use the rme hdsp card on my desktop - must just get a pci-pcmcia adapter. Does any of you has anything to warn against this? thanks again, João > Hi! > > If you are really lazy, take Ubuntustudio with LTS (8.04). And do not > change 8.04 to 8.10 (or other) untill next LTS release. Or switch to > 8.10 when 9.04 will be near-ready. With normal release (not LTS) > you'll get pissed off twice a year "just because" you'll loose your > software untill someone will make packages for you (developers wait > with packaging untill last moment or longer, everything can change > with every beta release and it may cause errors, as it was with > pd-extended and Intrepid AFAIR). And you'll have to wait some time to > get your packages done. Every version now is a major rewrite, so using > LTS is the only way to have your packages quite fresh and in working > condition without much effort. > > You can also consider other, audio- media- or pd-oriented distros (or > distros supported with packages of what-you-need and/or rt kernel), > Musix, dyne:bolic and pure:dyne come to my mind. Or tweaked Debian > (pure:dyne?). With d:b please wait for upcoming release, 2.5.2 is very > crude now. > > I'm in general very pissed off with Ubuntu. It is fat and it breaks my > toys. I have to compile tones of stuff every half a year. It is not > always possible to compile it all... > I'm under Slack now. But I don't need rt kernel. It is possible to > install rt in any major distro. > > You always have to choose if it is: > specialised (Musix) or general-purpose (*buntu*, Fedora, OpenSUSE, > Debian), > fat, but out-of-the-box (OpenSUSE, *buntu*) or light, but DIY-ish > (Slackware), > modern (*buntu*) or with clear and obvious UNIX-like, well documented > architecture (Debian, Slack) > installed ONCE, forever (almost any mature release), stable (Slack, > Debian - stable branch), slightly unstable, but with newer software > (Ubuntu, Debian testing) or in beta stage - with newest tools but > almost always something cracks (Ubuntu beta releases, Debian sid) > ready to use out-of-the-box (in your case - specialized distros only), > after a short while (ubuntustudio or any bigget thing with rt kernel > in packages) or after heavy tweaking > (installing/compiling/gathering/tweaking software, kernel, desktop > env., hardware recognition and many others - like in Gentoo or > Slackware). > have such fancy thing like mounting your pendrive or camera in easy > way, integrated mixer, network reckognition tools (avahi), so KDE, > Gnome or Xfce-based or lightweight (fluxbox, IceWM). enlightenment - > 17 - sorry, but I think it is unusable (I've tried it last month), it > needs much more work to simply do the job with it. 16 is good. > > After you'll answer to yourself - the choice will be much easyier. > In my case I needed something: > easy on resources > stable, not so modern, but reliable software, to have live > performances and many hours of efficient work without ventricular > hypertension. (I'm still quite happy with Gimp 2.4) > to set up once a year or two or three, with mid-size repository, with > my must-have software working in 100% (It is a nomadic graphic > station, so Gimp, Inkscape, Cinelerra, Scribus, Fontmatrix, Veejay, > PD-vanilla, Processing and Synfig Studio is a must, with java and > python software) > to have pendrive, camera and tablet working in reasonable time > to have my wireless card supported with high connectivity (I'm a > wireless safety tester too) and some network tools (ftp client and > Skype) > easy to repair or tweak in ANY possible way when needed, so well > documented, clear and clean in terms of architecture. > easy to compile stuff on it > > So Slack with KDE was the one. Debian is pretty good but it is > developed much too fast for me. With Slack my tools are supported > within few years. Or I can compile things on my own. Settings, > additional packages, tweaks are left untouched after reinstallation, > which is also a big plus. > I have plenty of time (I'm working on of 1/4 full time), so having my > tablet working in three days and camera in two was OK for me. This > should be ready out-of-the-box, but whatever... I also like the > mind-bending style of Slackware configuration, it teaches a lot. > > Cheers, > Luke > > _______________________________________________ > [email protected] mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Friedenstr. 58 10249 Berlin (Deutschland) Tel +49 30 42020091 | Mob +49 162 6843570 [email protected] | skype: jmmmpjmmmp _______________________________________________ [email protected] mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
