Hey guys,

I just wanna say that in terms of live computer music, to me lack of physical 
interaction makes it totally boring for me. When I've mentioned this to some 
artists who's 'live performance' consists of them staring at a computer screen 
hitting buttons-maybe there'll be some arbitrary visual display if I'm lucky-I 
could tell they were thinking 'Philistine! go see a Pink concert if you want to 
see someone compensating for a complete lack of musical talent, artistry or 
substance with a dazzling live performance complete with the obligatory 
crowd-clapping breakdown-I'm solely and purely about the MUSIC being created, 
and if you were too, the sound would be enough for you'.

But I reckon this attitude is, if I may be so bold, BULLSHIT. If that's your 
attitude fine, but in that case what's the point of a live performance at all 
(needless to say I'm not talking about installations or spatialised pieces)? 
When I go see a live performance, I wanna see someone creating the music, and 
to me, that means physically creating it in some way. I wanna see that their 
emotions or concentration or whatever is being used in their act of creation is 
so intense that I can see physical manifestations of it through their physical 
actions. I think the area of MIDIcontroller technology is so ignored, probably 
cause there's no market fo it cause of that dumb attitude. I wish someone would 
come up with some interesting physical controller that actually requires 
substantial physical effort to manipulate parameters, or at least could 
withstand and respond to it. 

At the end of the day I don't think a live performance IS about the music, no 
matter how good-it's about seeing someone pour themselves into creating music 
you like, seeing their effort and passion in every action they perform, and 
most importantly hearing those actions effect on the sound being produced. If I 
were King, I'd be taking advantage of computer musical capabilities to make 
physical instruments/controllers that take MORE physical actions than any 
actual acoustic/electric instrument could require-MUCH more. I dream of having 
a set-up where I have to run around, smashing stuff with hammers, pushing giant 
sliders with all my strength, etc-now THAT would be a live performance I'd 
enjoy.

Let's get physical, and stop kidding ourselves-it matters ( . . . for live 
performance).

Babsyco.
 
> Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 09:24:55 -0400
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> CC: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [PD] "computer music" WAS: Re: Pd at a livecoding event on the   
> BBC
> 
> hola
> 
> thx for your thoughtful post.
> 
> On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 10:09 PM, Fernando Gadea <[email protected]> wrote:
> > 1- physical instruments
> 
> well, yes; body, rhythm, instruments, music.
> 
> but i think there is also something interesting in 'mental' music. or
> music that is achieved only through programming sounds. like those old
> vienese [and of course other places too] used to do with paper and pen
> ...
> 
> 
> > 2- About academic-high culture-Art and popular-low culture-art
> 
> this is a religious war- completely outside the bounds of rationality.
> and really, i don't care which 'club' an artist comes fro i just
> want their work to captivate me.
> 
> what makes something art? how do we know if it is any good?
> there are no laws about this. people assert them periodically, but
> they are soon enough forgotten.
> 
> -- 
> \js  [  - . .  .   ]
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