On Jan 25, 2010, at 3:38 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:

Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:

The other option is run the install on the command line and use Force
Depends, I think its something like this:

dpkg -i --force-depends pd-extended.deb


on the packager side: before the huge pd-extended package is split into
several nice packages which would allow us to track dependencies more
accurately, i would suggest to not "depend" on binary packages but
rather "recommend" them (if it is for external dependencies).

e.g. if somebody is using Pd-extended for all the nifty features in
there but they are totally uninterested in doing visuals using Gem, they will probably never notice that they cannot run it because they have not
installed libgmerlin_avdec)
i think that nowadays, state-of-the-art package managers will try to
automatically install all "recommends" packages (a behaviour which i
personally don't really like...), so most users won't notice the change
(apart from those who cannot satisfy the dependencies and who are
currently told to use wild things like "--force-depends")


Makes sense, but I don't really have time to test it and figure out possible issues with this approach and possible workarounds. So from my point of view, the problems we know are more attractive than the big unknown.

I'd rather put that effort into making good Debian packages. Next weekend is the Debian Bug Squashing Party here in NYC, so that should help. I have been working on the template Makefile and matching template debian/rules to go with it.

.hc


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