On Mar 7, 2010, at 1:16 PM, Derek Holzer wrote:

> are you saying you run Pd on OSX with an -rt flag, or that running it on OSX 
> is like running it with an -rt flag on Linux?
> 
> I've had a chance to compare identical patches on identical hardware 
> (Powerbook G4 w/ OSX 10.4 and Gentoo) and I have to say I got a *lot* more 
> processing power on Gentoo, upwards of 25% increase. That could have 
> something to do with a leaner OS of course...

Well, I have been using the -rt flag out of habit, but I don't know if it makes 
a difference on OSX.

How do you define "processing power"? It's quite a relative term.  Sure, you 
can squeeze every transistor for what it's worth using Gentoo but I don't care. 
All I know is Pd runs the same patches on OSX with the same capability as 
Ubuntu on my old (now kaput) Thinkpad.  I have not spent much time in 
investigating how much cpu Pd takes on OSX since, so far, it hasn't been an 
issue ... which is great.  I'd rather focus on making patches, not making Pd 
work well.

For what it's worth, I always develop with my performance hardware and OS in 
mind: PentiumIII 500Mhz running Ubuntu command line install. No realtime kernel 
required, only pd -rt using Alsa.  I play live music with a guitar and 
peripherals and there isn't much difference to me between 2ms and 12ms latency 
for what I do.  In other words, I focus on making minimal, fast patches.

And please, I don't wish to engage in a "this OS is better" argument. It would 
be interesting, however, to develop some tests and get feedback from various OS 
users on different capabilities aka timing precision, midi latency, audio 
latency, etc.  I'm sure this has probably been done already though.

> On 3/7/10 2:03 PM, Dan Wilcox wrote:
> 
>> After using Pd on Linux for some years, I was expecting to experience
>> the dreaded OSX "slow pd and midi syndrome". So far I haven't had any
>> problems of the sort and my patches run just as they do in Linux with
>> -rt.

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Dan Wilcox
danomatika.com
robotcowboy.com




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