--- On Fri, 3/19/10, Roman Haefeli <[email protected]> wrote:
> From: Roman Haefeli <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [PD] Pd, Max/Msp, Reaktor, Plogue Bidule... How do these compare? > To: "Jonathan Wilkes" <[email protected]> > Cc: "Marco Donnarumma" <[email protected]>, [email protected], "Matteo Sisti > Sette" <[email protected]>, [email protected] > Date: Friday, March 19, 2010, 8:11 PM > On Fri, 2010-03-19 at 11:02 -0700, > Jonathan Wilkes wrote: > > > > --- On Fri, 3/19/10, Roman Haefeli <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > From: Roman Haefeli <[email protected]> > > > Subject: Re: [PD] Pd, Max/Msp, Reaktor, Plogue > Bidule... How do these compare? > > > To: "Marco Donnarumma" <[email protected]> > > > Cc: "Jonathan Wilkes" <[email protected]>, > [email protected], > "Matteo Sisti Sette" <[email protected]>, > [email protected] > > > Date: Friday, March 19, 2010, 6:07 PM > > > On Fri, 2010-03-19 at 09:58 +0100, > > > Marco Donnarumma wrote: > > > > > > > Talking about Pd It's fundamental to learn > how things > > > works, imho. > > > > > > Pd is the fundament for learning how things work. > That was > > > my experience > > > (and still is). > > > > > > Roman > > > > What are you getting at? The two aren't mutually > exclusive. > > I am actually thinking that the two are complementary. > > Of course, it helps a lot to have a certain level of > knowledge in > dsp/math/whatsover before touching Pd. I just wanted to > point out, that > Pd very well supports the approach of acquiring theory > through practice. > Concepts such as, that every sound is composed of its > sinusoidal > partials (just one example of so many possible), sound very > abstract and > are hard to explain in words. But at the same time, they > are often quite > easy to illustrate with Pd (see 07.additive.pd from > 3.audio.examples). > > Of course, it is fundamental to learn how things works, but > how do you > learn those things? My answer is: By using Pd. Similar to > how a two year > old child learns the basic laws of physics by letting > things fall down, > throw them away, put them on other things etc, Pd lets you > explore the > nature of sound. I often feel the need of telling potential > Pd users, > that it's not necessary to have read many books and be a > master in math > before doing Pd, but if they do read books, it helps a lot > to try things > out in Pd right away. I see. I took Marco's statement to mean that talking about Pd is fundamental to learning how things work in Pd. It sounds like you're saying that you don't have to have a comprehensive knowledge of "how dsp works" before diving into Pd because using Pd is a way of aquiring that knowledge. I agree with both. -Jonathan _______________________________________________ [email protected] mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
