come'on, I hate brown... :-) One thing is that Canonical do much much less to Linux kernel development then RedHat. They don't give back :-(
2010/9/13 András Murányi <[email protected]>: > Well, i never really used Fedora... I used RH back then, and when i was to > get back to Linux after XP, I have evaluated many distros, and Ubuntu seemed > kinda promising. Why did it seem promising to me? > - large user base > - entirely non-for-profit > - targeted the desktop more definitely than some others > - software with different copyrights avalable in a rather integrated way > (universe, multiverse, medibuntu) > - nice brownish look :o) > > Andras > > 2010/9/14 Bernardo Barros <[email protected]> >> >> just curious... why switch from fedora to ubuntu? >> >> >> >> 2010/9/13 Hans-Christoph Steiner <[email protected]>: >> > >> > The Debian tools make it quite easy and manageable to build your own >> > kernel. >> > Try that before switching :) >> > .hc >> > On Sep 13, 2010, at 4:21 PM, András Murányi wrote: >> > >> > Ahh, livna.... >> > You know, know that i have convinced my Fedora friends to switch to >> > Ubuntu, >> > what do I tall them when i go back? :o) >> > I'll take a look at it, and also at home-brewing a kernel. Maybe that's >> > the >> > way forward. >> > >> > Thanks, >> > Andras >> > >> > 2010/9/13 Bernardo Barros <[email protected]> >> >> >> >> Then you have to add Fusion free+non-free (maybe livna?) to your repos. >> >> >> >> >> >> 2010/9/13 András Murányi <[email protected]>: >> >> > Hhh, switching distro seems harder than moving to another country >> >> > sometimes... :o) >> >> > I heard that some non-free stuff if missing from Fedora, does CCRMA >> >> > have >> >> > these? Like some proprietary codecs, etc... >> >> > >> >> > 2010/9/13 Bernardo Barros <[email protected]> >> >> >> >> >> >> yes, planet_ccrma is a repo for the Fedora/CentOS/RedHat family >> >> >> I like it >> >> >> >> >> >> 2010/9/13 András Murányi <[email protected]>: >> >> >> > Hmm, hmm. That means switching to Fedora, right? >> >> >> > >> >> >> > 2010/9/13 Bernardo Barros <[email protected]> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Planet CCRMA offers rt-kernel for x86_64 systems. Give it a try. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 2010/9/13 András Murányi <[email protected]>: >> >> >> >> > On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 7:59 PM, jm jones <[email protected]> >> >> >> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Hi, usually I install the 64 bits version of, but the last >> >> >> >> >> time, >> >> >> >> >> I >> >> >> >> >> dont remember why : ) (maybe to avoid any problems) I >> >> >> >> >> installed >> >> >> >> >> the >> >> >> >> >> 32 >> >> >> >> >> bits version of Ubuntu 10.04 LTS. Is a repo of pd-extended for >> >> >> >> >> 10.04 >> >> >> >> >> available? >> >> >> >> >> And about the 32 vs 64 bits, what are your choices? And what >> >> >> >> >> about >> >> >> >> >> distros? Pure:dyne seems more lightweight with his xfce >> >> >> >> >> desktop, >> >> >> >> >> however I have a good processor (core 2 duo intel e7200) and >> >> >> >> >> 2gb >> >> >> >> >> of >> >> >> >> >> ram, planning an update to 6gb, so I dont know if xfce is a >> >> >> >> >> must >> >> >> >> >> for >> >> >> >> >> me. >> >> >> >> >> Im a "veteran" gnu/linux user, but the last years I was using >> >> >> >> >> OS >> >> >> >> >> X >> >> >> >> >> and >> >> >> >> >> W7 for music making. In Linux I want to use pd, Renoise (its >> >> >> >> >> available >> >> >> >> >> as 64 bits too), and wine for some vsts. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > Hi There, >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > I'm sort of a veteran too (started on IBM AIX in 1992, used Red >> >> >> >> > Hat >> >> >> >> > for >> >> >> >> > a >> >> >> >> > long time, then went back to Windows 98, later XP, which i gave >> >> >> >> > up >> >> >> >> > finally a >> >> >> >> > few years ago). >> >> >> >> > I'm using vanilla Ubuntu 10.04 64-bit with Gnome (and 2GB of >> >> >> >> > memory), >> >> >> >> > and my >> >> >> >> > impression is that it's not the WM that makes things slow, but >> >> >> >> > in >> >> >> >> > the >> >> >> >> > case >> >> >> >> > of Pd, it's Pd itself. Read the archives on GUI<->core >> >> >> >> > communication >> >> >> >> > and >> >> >> >> > Tcl/Tk weirdnesses. The 64-bit version of Pd is quite tidy now, >> >> >> >> > well >> >> >> >> > actually there was a time when it seemed to me a bit slower >> >> >> >> > than >> >> >> >> > the >> >> >> >> > 32-bit >> >> >> >> > version, but AFAIK there's no reason for that any more (?) >> >> >> >> > With a decent CPU and that huge amount of RAM you (will) have, >> >> >> >> > it >> >> >> >> > really >> >> >> >> > cannot be a question of WM whatsoever. Of course, the system >> >> >> >> > has >> >> >> >> > to >> >> >> >> > be >> >> >> >> > tuned >> >> >> >> > for realtime, undisturbed audio usage, which may include >> >> >> >> > getting >> >> >> >> > rid >> >> >> >> > of >> >> >> >> > eye-candy functions, but i never experienced a problem with >> >> >> >> > those. >> >> >> >> > After >> >> >> >> > all, they use openGL, don't they? >> >> >> >> > The same stands for pure:dyne; at the core it's a linux kernel, >> >> >> >> > and >> >> >> >> > what >> >> >> >> > you >> >> >> >> > install on (or remove from) the top, it's up to you. >> >> >> >> > The only thing i'm missing here on 64-bit is the RT kernel. >> >> >> >> > Once i >> >> >> >> > find >> >> >> >> > a >> >> >> >> > nice quick way, i'll grab it, but i'm not really into >> >> >> >> > home-brewing >> >> >> >> > my >> >> >> >> > kernel. :) >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > Muranyi Andras >> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Muranyi Andras >> > _______________________________________________ >> > [email protected] mailing list >> > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > >> > I have always wished for my computer to be as easy to use as >> > my telephone; >> > my wish has come true because I can no longer figure out how to use my >> > telephone." --Bjarne Stroustrup (creator of C++) >> > > > > > -- > Muranyi Andras > _______________________________________________ [email protected] mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
