Re: [PD] PD extended, Linux 64 & 32 bits

Mon, 13 Sep 2010 16:19:49 -0700
Canonical does do a lot of GNOME development tho, from what I've heard. They do contribute a lot of code, but in different areas. But it would be interesting to see how the various GNU/Linux companies compare in terms of how much code they contribute. 

.hc

On Sep 13, 2010, at 6:54 PM, Bernardo Barros wrote:


come'on, I hate brown... :-)

One thing is that Canonical do much much less to Linux kernel
development then RedHat. They don't give back :-(

2010/9/13 András Murányi <[email protected]>:

Well, i never really used Fedora... I used RH back then, and when i  
was to
get back to Linux after XP, I have evaluated many distros, and  
Ubuntu seemed

kinda promising. Why did it seem promising to me?
- large user base
- entirely non-for-profit
- targeted the desktop more definitely than some others

- software with different copyrights avalable in a rather  
integrated way

(universe, multiverse, medibuntu)
- nice brownish look :o)

Andras

2010/9/14 Bernardo Barros <[email protected]>


just curious... why switch from fedora to ubuntu?



2010/9/13 Hans-Christoph Steiner <[email protected]>:



The Debian tools make it quite easy and manageable to build your  
own

kernel.
 Try that before switching :)
.hc
On Sep 13, 2010, at 4:21 PM, András Murányi wrote:

Ahh, livna....
You know, know that i have convinced my Fedora friends to switch to
Ubuntu,
what do I tall them when i go back? :o)

I'll take a look at it, and also at home-brewing a kernel. Maybe  
that's

the
way forward.

Thanks,
Andras

2010/9/13 Bernardo Barros <[email protected]>



Then you have to add Fusion free+non-free (maybe livna?) to your  
repos.



2010/9/13 András Murányi <[email protected]>:

Hhh, switching distro seems harder than moving to another country
sometimes... :o)

I heard that some non-free stuff if missing from Fedora, does  
CCRMA

have
these? Like some proprietary codecs, etc...

2010/9/13 Bernardo Barros <[email protected]>


yes, planet_ccrma is a repo for the Fedora/CentOS/RedHat family
I like it

2010/9/13 András Murányi <[email protected]>:

Hmm, hmm. That means switching to Fedora, right?

2010/9/13 Bernardo Barros <[email protected]>



Planet CCRMA offers rt-kernel for x86_64 systems. Give it a  
try.


2010/9/13 András Murányi <[email protected]>:

On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 7:59 PM, jm jones <[email protected]>
wrote:


Hi, usually I install the 64 bits version of, but the last
time,
I
dont remember why : ) (maybe to avoid any problems) I
installed
the
32

bits version of Ubuntu 10.04 LTS. Is a repo of pd-extended  
for

10.04
available?

And about the 32 vs 64 bits, what are your choices?  And  
what

about
distros? Pure:dyne seems more lightweight with his xfce
desktop,
however I have a good processor (core 2 duo intel e7200) and
2gb
of
ram, planning an update to 6gb, so I dont know if xfce is a
must
for
me.

Im a "veteran" gnu/linux user, but the last years I was  
using

OS
X
and
W7 for music making. In Linux I want to use pd, Renoise (its
available
as 64 bits too), and wine for some vsts.



Hi There,


I'm sort of a veteran too (started on IBM AIX in 1992, used  
Red

Hat
for
a

long time, then went back to Windows 98, later XP, which i  
gave

up
finally a
few years ago).
I'm using vanilla Ubuntu 10.04 64-bit with Gnome (and 2GB of
memory),
and my

impression is that it's not the WM that makes things slow,  
but

in
the
case
of Pd, it's Pd itself. Read the archives on GUI<->core
communication
and

Tcl/Tk weirdnesses. The 64-bit version of Pd is quite tidy  
now,

well
actually there was a time when it seemed to me a bit slower
than
the
32-bit
version, but AFAIK there's no reason for that any more (?)

With a decent CPU and that huge amount of RAM you (will)  
have,

it
really
cannot be a question of WM whatsoever. Of course, the system
has
to
be
tuned
for realtime, undisturbed audio usage, which may include
getting
rid
of
eye-candy functions, but i never experienced a problem with
those.
After
all, they use openGL, don't they?

The same stands for pure:dyne; at the core it's a linux  
kernel,

and
what
you
install on (or remove from) the top, it's up to you.
The only thing i'm missing here on 64-bit is the RT kernel.
Once i
find
a
nice quick way, i'll grab it, but i'm not really into
home-brewing
my
kernel. :)








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