For me external is different from abstraction. For what I understand there's a need for a joint concept, one that says "this visual object box is <<something>>".
Is that what you call class Mathieu? best, Pedro p.s.: this kinda answers another thread, where I posted that table of concepts "mental exercise" (for me). On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 4:36 AM, Alexandre Porres <por...@gmail.com> wrote: > I didn't say they strictly are, but that they can be (as with list-abs). > > alex > > 2011/2/16 Mathieu Bouchard <ma...@artengine.ca> > > On Tue, 15 Feb 2011, Alexandre Porres wrote: >> >> > Btw-- the manual makes a distinction between> "abstractions" >>> and "externs". >>> >>> But it shouldn't, right? I mean, it's not real in practice, for >>> abstractions can be externals... >>> >> >> Which definitions are you using ? >> >> I've never seen « abstractions are externals » nor anything that would >> imply it. >> >> I tried introducing the word « class » in users' vocabulary, to include >> both abstraction definitions and external definitions under a same word, and >> using the word « object » to mean instances of either, but there is still >> some resistance to using industry-standard vocabulary instead of whatever >> the MAX manuals coughed up, for example. >> >> It would be good if you stated the definitions you use. It'd help me >> understand how « abstractions are externals » can be a true statement. >> >> _______________________________________________________________________ >> | Mathieu Bouchard ---- tél: +1.514.383.3801 ---- Villeray, Montréal, QC >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > -- Pedro Lopes (MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch
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