Am 26.08.2011 um 04:06 schrieb Chris McCormick:

On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 11:20:47PM +0200, Thomas Grill wrote:
Am 25.08.2011 um 19:40 schrieb Andrew Faraday:
you can't hear noise against noise :p

Interesting - but then again, what is "noise"?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wave_function_collapse

Hmmm, i guess your point with the reference is that when perceiving one takes snapshots (measurements) of a statistical function (the wave function). However, there are widespread methods to tell one statistical distribution ("noise") from another one ("noise"). See e.g. expectation maximization (EM) in (Gaussian) mixture models (GMM), a popular technique in Music Information Retrieval.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mixture_model#Expectation_maximization_.28EM.29
Why shouldn't human listeners be able to maximize their expectations as well?

gr~~~


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