On 2011-09-03 22:47, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
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From: Mathieu Bouchard<[email protected]>
To: Jonathan Wilkes<[email protected]>
Cc: Chris McCormick<[email protected]>; Miller Puckette<[email protected]>; 
"[email protected]"<[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, September 3, 2011 1:20 PM
Subject: Re: [PD] (breaking symbols) was Re: find a list of numbers in a text 
file

On Wed, 31 Aug 2011, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:

  Keep in mind that [list implode] must be smart enough to output the float
  atom "12" given the input "49 50".  If it gives you
"symbol 12" then your
  back to the [makefilename] madness from my original vanilla solution.

It's not that simple.

It needs to be that simple for the general case because Pd Vanilla has no 
(sensible) mechanism to convert
a symbol atom into a float.

If symbol atoms which look like numbers to the naked eye are going to start 
flying around more freely in Pd
then the docs need to explain how atoms are a kind of weird file cabinet where 
the label on the cabinet tells
you which file-folder inside actually holds the data.  So if you send the symbol-atom 
"15" to [max], the file clerk will
complain because it's looking for a number but the label on the cabinet says 
"A_SYMBOL".  (Additionally, if you tell
the clerk to ignore the label and just pull out a number, the clerk will look in 
"A_FLOAT" and give you a "0", because
the "15" is in the "A_SYMBOL" file-folder.)

Hm... is there a way you can tell the clerk to be a real go-getter when looking 
for a float atom inside a
cabined labeled "A_SYMBOL" by just going ahead and seeing if the data in the 
"A_SYMBOL" file-folder looks like a
number, and if so convert it to a float and send it on its way?

Any external can do that easily enough if it wants to by using sscanf with a format string:

int symbol_to_float (t_atom *atom, t_float *afloat)
{
    int n;
        n = sscanf(atom->a_w.w_symbol->s_name, "%f", afloat);
        return n; /* afloat is valid if n is 1 */
}

But there are more ways of writing numbers than a single sscanf call can handle, so a real version would have to check all the expected input styles.

The function pd_defaultsymbol in m_class.c is the default symbol handler for objects that have no explicit symbol method. It could check to see if a non-default float method exists and if so try to convert the symbol to a float for the float method to eat.

Martin


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