On Sep 9, 2011, at 6:29 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:

On Tue, 6 Sep 2011, Frank Barknecht wrote:

I'm not sure what "appears in the patch" should mean. It definitly means that numercial-symbol selectors don't get shown and cannot be written into a patch, so you cannot use them in the editor where "real" selectors should be written, like in [route]: There's no [route "15"] in Pd, where "15" should mean a numerical symbol.

I proposed such a syntax in the past... 2006-2007, I think.

It would take care of :

"15" = \15 but looks less weird

"" = really an empty string (just like the &s_ given by A_DEFSYMBOL, that you nearly can't produce otherwise)

"hello      world" = hello\ \ \ \ \ \ world but less annoying to type.

"hello " = hello\ \ \ but at least it wouldn't be confusing like ending a symbol by backslash space and then immediately using a space separator.

";" = \;

"," = \,

but it means :

" would be syntax error

\" would mean double-quote char

"\"" too

Those conventions are very similar to Tcl and Bash.

However, I don't know what "$1" would do, nor why it's a good idea, or a bad idea.

Also, how do we quote ";" when writing to a file ? a literal semicolon in a messagebox would be written as \;, which has to be written \\\; in the file, but if a user were to write ";", what will the messagebox write to the .pd file ?


I agree the "" style would match other languages and things quite well and might be clearer, but breaks backwards compatibility, though not horribly. We could start with the \ method, and if that is too painful, add a "" method. They would be complimentary. Certainly most syntaxes that have "" also have \ escaping. Internet search input is one notable exception.

.hc




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