----- Original Message -----
> From: Mathieu Bouchard <[email protected]>
> To: Hans-Christoph Steiner <[email protected]>
> Cc: [email protected]
> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 2:04 PM
> Subject: Re: [PD] (breaking symbols) was Re: find a list of numbers in a text
> file
>
> On Fri, 9 Sep 2011, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>
>> How would you then describe how Pd judges the difference between a symbol
> and a float? I wish there was more on this topic in the manual, but there is
> not.
>
> It's quite hard to do biblical interpretation... and it doesn't
> necessarily pay off.
>
> In the facts, programmes are written for machines to execute, and only
> incidentally for people to read. So, issues of backward compatibility happen
> regardless of what the manual actually says, and it's possible that a
> programme doesn't reflect the intent, that a manual doesn't reflect the
> intent, and/or that a manual doesn't reflect the programme. How you resolve
> such a conflict is... some kind of triple-edged sword... but remember that
> the
> intent in question needs not to be the original intent, I'm talking about
> the current intents.
>
> E.g. if you pass a symbol through [trigger float], which is documented as
> something that «converts» data, and what it does to any symbol is turn it to
> 0,
> you can safely throw away both the documentation and the presumed original
> intent and move on. Then you may decide a new intent that is useful instead
> of
> nonsensical.
But [trigger] _can_ convert message types:
[float 1(
|
[trigger list]
|
[symbol]
|
[select list float]
| |
| [pd
sorry_float_you_blow_up_now_dammit_if_we_had_only_used_trigger_conversion]
|
[pd list_saves_the_world_thanks_to_trigger_conversion_sunset_credits]
:)
[trigger] has two main functions:
1) sequence messages in right to left order.
2) have any/all/none of the outlets send a bang instead of the original message
as a patching shortcut:
Thus:
[trigger anything]
|
[b]
|
can be shortened to:
[trigger bang]
|
2.5) Pd-l2ork and Max/MSP extend this patching shortcut so that:
[trigger bang]
|
[1(
may be shortened to:
[trigger 1]
|
And finally:
-1) [t a] as a cheap hack due to lack of segmented patching cords
-Jonathan
>
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