Yeah, its all plugins. I think the only progress is that someone wrote GLUT support for [gemwin], and Mac OS X supports GLUT. The rest still need to be done, but maybe could be supported by gmerlin.
.hc On Feb 20, 2012, at 6:47 PM, m.e.grimm wrote: > just wondering. how far has this has gone so far? anywhere? > >> gemwin, pix_video, pix_film, pix_image: use 64-bit API to replace Quicktime > > BTW is this all done with a Gem plugin now? is that the idea? just to > write a plugin for qtkit? > > m > > On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner <[email protected]> > wrote: >> >> You're using the 64-bit Mac OS X version. That won't be a full release in >> 0.43 since there are some issues porting things away from Carbon that won't >> be resolved in time. The 64-bit version means you can address huge amounts >> of memory, but with 0.43 it means you will not have: >> >> - Gem >> - pdp >> - gem2pdp >> - tclpd >> - hid >> >> Other than that, everything should work fine. If anyone is interested in >> getting any of the above working on Mac OS X 64-bit sooner rather than >> later, I can point them where to work. Here's the general idea, in rough >> order of how much work it'd take: >> >> pdp_qt, pdp_ieee1394: use 64-bit API to replace Quicktime and Carbon calls >> tclpd: make Pd work with Tk/Cocoa >> hid: use 64-bit API to replace Carbon calls >> gemwin, pix_video, pix_film, pix_image: use 64-bit API to replace Quicktime >> and Carbon calls >> gem2pdp: get Gem and pdp built >> >> .hc >> >> On Feb 18, 2012, at 1:00 AM, Rich E wrote: >> >> Thanks Hans! >> >> I just tried on OS X Lion and got the following errors upon startup: >> >>>>>>> >> >> /Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120217.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/tclpd/tclpd.pd_darwin: >> dlopen(/Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120217.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/tclpd/tclpd.pd_darwin, >> 10): Symbol not found: _TclFreeObj >> Referenced from: >> /Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120217.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/tclpd/tclpd.pd_darwin >> Expected in: dynamic lookup >> >> /Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120217.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../startup/tclpd: >> can't load startup library'! >> >>>>>>> >> >> Pretty fast startup though. :) >> >> Cheers, >> Rich >> >> On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 9:32 AM, Lorenzo Sutton <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> >>> Thank you! Great news installed it and playing with it. Very good. >>> >>> Lorenzo. >>> >>> >>> On 17/02/2012 21:02, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> http://at.or.at/hans/blog/2012/02/17/new-editing-feature-of-pd-extended-0-43-now-in-beta/ >>>> >>>> The Pd-extended 0.43 release has been brewing an extra long time, about >>>> 18 months now, mostly because there are lots of big improvements, and we >>>> wanted to make sure we got it right, so your patches all work, but the >>>> improvements all shine. Its now solidly beta, so we’re looking for testers. >>>> Download a nightly build to try here: >>>> >>>> http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/latest/ >>>> >>>> First off, the pd-gui side of Pd has been re-written from scratch. When >>>> you run Pd, you are actually running two programs: pd is the core engine >>>> and >>>> pd-gui is the GUI. Since basically all computers now come with multiple CPU >>>> cores, this means that pd-gui will usually run on a separate CPU core than >>>> pd, so they don’t step on each other’s toes. pd can entirely take over its >>>> own core. If you want to make your patch use more CPU cores, then check out >>>> the [pd~] object introduced in the last release (0.42.5). >>>> >>>> pd still handles some of the GUI stuff, but we are working on splitting >>>> that out for the 0.44 release. That is a big chunk of work but it will also >>>> bring big gains. In particular, it means that it will be possible for >>>> people >>>> to write their own GUIs for Pd, covering not just the display of the patch, >>>> but also the editing, and everything else. You like OpenFrameworks, python, >>>> iOS, JUCE, Qt, etc.? Write your own pd-gui using the toolkit of your >>>> choice. >>>> That’s the idea at least. That will take a solid chunk of work, so we are >>>> looking for people to join that effort. >>>> >>>> There are so many ideas for making a better editing experience in Pd, >>>> this release makes big strides to address the editing experience. There are >>>> new features like Magic Glass, Autotips, Autopatch and Perf Mode, all >>>> available on the Edit menu. >>>> >>>> • Magic Glass let’s you magically see the messages as they pass through >>>> the cords. Just turn it on and hover above a cord, and you’ll see the >>>> messages as they go by. You can even look at signal/audio cords. >>>> >>>> • Autotips gives you tips about what an object does, what its inlet >>>> expects, and what comes out of the outlets. >>>> >>>> • Autopatch mode automatically connects objects as you create them. >>>> >>>> • Perf Mode, is a mode for performance that makes it harder to >>>> accidentally close windows that are part of your performance. >>>> >>>> The Pd Window is also majorly overhauled. First of all, its fast. Much >>>> much faster than the old one. You can now print thousands of messages per >>>> second to the Pd Window and still edit your patch. No more will an >>>> accidental dump of info cause the GUI to freeze up (well, ok, maybe if you >>>> send 10,000 messages/second but that is a way too many). There are also now >>>> 5 levels of printing messages to the Pd Window: fatal, error, normal, >>>> debug, >>>> all. If you are only interested in fatal errors, switch the Pd Window to 0 >>>> – >>>> fatal, and you’ll only see the worst problems. You want to see every single >>>> message to debug? Switch to 4 – all, and you’ll get the whole firehose. >>>> >>>> There is also the new log library, which lets you easily send messages >>>> for those different levels. And all messages logged with the objects from >>>> the log library are clickable: when you Ctrl-Click or Cmd-click (Mac OS X) >>>> on the line in the Pd Window, it’ll pop up the patch where the message came >>>> from, and highlight the specific object that printed it. That even works >>>> for >>>> many messages from other objects as well. >>>> >>>> The Pd Window also includes very basic level meters for monitoring the >>>> input and output levels. And for those who want to play with the GUI in >>>> realtime, you can type Tcl code in the Tcl entry field, and directly modify >>>> and probe the running GUI. >>>> >>>> One thing that you can do now is customize the GUI using GUI plugins. You >>>> can change all sorts of colors, some fonts, and many behaviors. Want to >>>> create a new object when you triple-click? Try the tripleclick example >>>> plugin Want to make the patch cords disappear when you leave Edit Mode? >>>> Check out the “only show cords in edit mode” example. Those are the simple >>>> ones. There is also Tab Completion, a search engine for the docs, a >>>> category >>>> browser for the right-click menu, a buttonbar for creating objects, and >>>> more. >>>> >>>> You can find many GUI plugins in the new section of the downloads page as >>>> well as documentation for making your own. 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