Thanks for your email, I always find it interesting to hear people's
perspectives. I'm happy to see more people getting involved in development, so
that means we can have more things like zooming interfaces. :-) Tcl/Tk can do
zooming just fine, by the way ;-)
.hc
On Feb 20, 2012, at 3:56 PM, Scott R. Looney wrote:
> well, speaking as a new member of the list and a very budding PD user coming
> from last using Max 5.1 i am happy with any incremental steps making the
> interface more usable. i do realize that usability can be a subjective term,
> but even simply paving the way for more options is an excellent start.
>
> i don't believe i saw HC attempting to claim sole credit for the work he does
> every day on creating a more balanced release of on top of others hard work.
> his whole focus to me seems to be how to improve things and move PD forward
> both in terms of stability and usability/flexibility.
>
> personally i have some gripes - i'm not enthusiastic about the look of Tcl/Tk
> apps in general - they are too blocky with no apparent ability for alpha
> channeling in the gui. i think Juce comes closer for me. i would love the
> ability to zoom in on patches. i use this feature all the time when in Max
> 5.1. i think not being able to pass the { and } characters without a somewhat
> convoluted workaround REALLY holds PD back from interacting with Javascript
> or most scripting languages in a way friendly a newbie.
>
> in spite of all that, i see real progress behind the scenes with PD-extended,
> and i have no doubt that it will continue to move in a direction that will
> offer more flexibility and usability down the road using the input from as
> many users as who wish to participate. i don't see HC as claiming to have
> reinvented the PD gui but it's lot of work corralling many different extended
> efforts, keeping track of changes, and answering the majority of tech
> questions that comes across the list, and i am grateful to him and everyone
> else who contributes time and effort to making PD better for newbies and more
> flexible for pros.
>
> scott
>
> On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 11:30 AM, Roman Haefeli <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Mon, 2012-02-20 at 10:36 -0800, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Roman Haefeli <[email protected]>
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Cc:
> > > Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 8:28 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] old editing features of Pd-extended 0.43
> > >
> > > On Sat, 2012-02-18 at 16:47 -0500, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > >> Do you think that it helps
> > >> making Pd be taken seriously ?
> > >
> > > Interesting question. I haven't thought about what could help make Pd be
> > > taken less or more seriously. Thinking about it, I feel that people
> > > often tend to take something seriously for odd reasons, like if has a
> > > 'nice' interface, if it costs much, if prominent person XY has a
> > > positive opinion about it, etc.
> > >
> > > Roman
> >
> > "Nice interface" does not belong in this list of odd reasons to take
> > a program seriously.
>
> Yeah, you're right. I should have said something else ('rounded
> corners'?)
>
> Roman
>
>
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