With the below Ubuntu package all seems better - list has 2 inlets once more:)
Jb On 21 January 2013 22:12, Hans-Christoph Steiner <[email protected]> wrote: > > Also, does it happen if you use the Ubuntu/oneiric package (should work for > wheezy, you might want to use quantal or raring for sid): > > > https://launchpad.net/~eighthave/+archive/pd-extended/+files/pd-extended_0.43.4%7E20130121-1%7quantal_amd64.deb > > .hc > > On 01/21/2013 04:37 PM, Julian Brooks wrote: > > Yip yip - same here: > > > > 0.43.4-extended-20130107 > > > > WARNING: 64-bit builds are still beta, some libraries are known to have > > serious issues (cyclone, maxlib, moonlib, moocow, pdp, bsaylor, etc.) > > /usr/lib/pd-extended/tcl/../startup/1.list.pd_linux: can't load startup > > library'! > > > > > > [list] has only one inlet. > > > > Debian Sid/Wheezy 64b. > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Julian > > > > > > > > On 21 January 2013 21:26, batinste <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> Weirder and weirder. Pd-ext still cannot load 1.list.pd_linux. I get > >> > >> error: /usr/lib/pd-extended/startup/**1.list.pd_linux: can't load > startup > >> library'! > >> > >> but : > >> > >> ~$ ls /usr/lib/pd-extended/startup/ | grep list > >> 1.list.pd_linux > >> > >> > >> So i deinstalled the last auto-build of Pd-extended for ubuntu 12.10 > x64 : > >> > >> ~$ sudo dpkg --purge pd-extended > >> (Lecture de la base de données... 303007 fichiers et répertoires déjà > >> installés.) > >> Suppression de pd-extended ... > >> Purge des fichiers de configuration de pd-extended ... > >> dpkg : avertissement : while removing pd-extended, directory > >> '/usr/lib/pd-extended/extra' not empty so not removed > >> Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour « > hicolor-icon-theme > >> »... > >> Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour « bamfdaemon »... > >> Rebuilding /usr/share/applications/bamf.**index... > >> Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour « > desktop-file-utils > >> »... > >> Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour « gnome-menus »... > >> Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour « man-db »... > >> Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour « menu »... > >> Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour « shared-mime-info > >> »... > >> Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour « ureadahead »... > >> > >> in the extra directory are ANN library and the missing earplug_data.txt. > >> It shouldn't interfere with the rest. > >> > >> Then i removed preferences backups i did in my /home/me : .pdextended, > >> .pdextended~, .pdextended.**thisoneactuallyworks, etc :) > >> > >> Then, downloaded Pd-0.43.4-extended-ubuntu-**quantal-amd64.deb from > >> http://autobuild.puredata.**info/auto-build/latest/< > http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/latest/>and > >> > >> ~$ sudo dpkg -i Desktop/Pd-0.43.4-extended-**ubuntu-quantal-amd64.deb > >> Sélection du paquet pd-extended précédemment désélectionné. > >> (Lecture de la base de données... 295934 fichiers et répertoires déjà > >> installés.) > >> Dépaquetage de pd-extended (à partir de > .../Pd-0.43.4-extended-ubuntu-**quantal-amd64.deb) > >> ... > >> Paramétrage de pd-extended (0.43.4-extended) ... > >> Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour « ureadahead »... > >> Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour « shared-mime-info > >> »... > >> Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour « menu »... > >> Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour « man-db »... > >> Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour « bamfdaemon »... > >> Rebuilding /usr/share/applications/bamf.**index... > >> Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour « > desktop-file-utils > >> »... > >> Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour « gnome-menus »... > >> Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour « > hicolor-icon-theme > >> »... > >> > >> and finally > >> :~$ pd-extended -stderr -verbose > >> input channels = 0, output channels = 0 > >> Pd-0.43.4 ("extended") compiled 09:20:08 Jan 20 2013 > >> port 5400 > >> TCL_LIBRARY="/usr/lib/pd-**extended/lib/tcl/library" > >> TK_LIBRARY="/usr/lib/pd-**extended/lib/tk/library" wish8.5 > >> "/usr/lib/pd-extended/tcl//pd-**gui.tcl" 5400 > >> priority 6 scheduling enabled. > >> Waiting for connection request... > >> priority 8 scheduling enabled. > >> /usr/lib/pd-extended/bin/pd-**watchdog > >> ... connected > >> opened 0 MIDI input device(s) and 0 MIDI output device(s). > >> input channels = 0, output channels = 0 > >> Fontconfig warning: "/etc/fonts/conf.d/50-user.**conf", line 9: reading > >> configurations from ~/.fonts.conf is deprecated. > >> verbose(5): Using /usr/lib/pd-extended/startup as startup. > >> verbose(4): Loading /usr/lib/pd-extended/startup/**0.libdir.pd_linux > >> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**libdir/libdir.l_ia64 and failed > >> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**libdir/libdir.pd_linux and succeeded > >> verbose(3): libdir loader 1.9 > >> verbose(3): compiled on Jan 20 2013 at 09:23:51 > >> verbose(3): compiled against Pd version 0.43.4.extended > >> verbose(4): Loading /usr/lib/pd-extended/startup/**1.list.pd_linux > >> tried ./`Lp.l_ia64 and failed > >> tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/`**Lp.l_ia64 and failed > >> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/`**Lp.l_ia64 and failed > >> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/`**Lp.l_ia64 and failed > >> tried ./`Lp.pd_linux and failed > >> tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/`**Lp.pd_linux and failed > >> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/`**Lp.pd_linux and failed > >> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/`**Lp.pd_linux and failed > >> tried ./`Lp/`Lp.l_ia64 and failed > >> tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/`**Lp/`Lp.l_ia64 and failed > >> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/`**Lp/`Lp.l_ia64 and failed > >> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/`**Lp/`Lp.l_ia64 and failed > >> tried ./`Lp/`Lp.pd_linux and failed > >> tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/`**Lp/`Lp.pd_linux and failed > >> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/`**Lp/`Lp.pd_linux and failed > >> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/`**Lp/`Lp.pd_linux and failed > >> tried -meta.pd and failed > >> error: /usr/lib/pd-extended/startup/**1.list.pd_linux: can't load > startup > >> library'! > >> > >> verbose(4): Loading extra in /usr/lib/pd-extended/startup/**extra > >> tried ./extra.l_ia64 and failed > >> tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/**extra.l_ia64 and failed > >> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/**extra.l_ia64 and failed > >> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**extra.l_ia64 and failed > >> tried ./extra.pd_linux and failed > >> tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/**extra.pd_linux and failed > >> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/**extra.pd_linux and failed > >> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**extra.pd_linux and failed > >> tried ./extra/extra.l_ia64 and failed > >> tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/**extra/extra.l_ia64 and failed > >> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/**extra/extra.l_ia64 and failed > >> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**extra/extra.l_ia64 and failed > >> tried ./extra/extra.pd_linux and failed > >> tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/**extra/extra.pd_linux and failed > >> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/**extra/extra.pd_linux and failed > >> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**extra/extra.pd_linux and failed > >> tried ./extra/extra-meta.pd and failed > >> tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/**extra/extra-meta.pd and failed > >> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/**extra/extra-meta.pd and failed > >> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**extra/extra-meta.pd and succeeded > >> verbose(3): libdir_loader: added 'extra' to the global objectclass path > >> verbose(14): Loaded libdir 'extra' from '/usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/** > >> extra' > >> verbose(4): Loading pdlua in /usr/lib/pd-extended/startup/**pdlua > >> tried ./pdlua.l_ia64 and failed > >> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**extra/pdlua.l_ia64 and failed > >> tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/**pdlua.l_ia64 and failed > >> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/**pdlua.l_ia64 and failed > >> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**pdlua.l_ia64 and failed > >> tried ./pdlua.pd_linux and failed > >> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**extra/pdlua.pd_linux and failed > >> tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/**pdlua.pd_linux and failed > >> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/**pdlua.pd_linux and failed > >> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**pdlua.pd_linux and failed > >> tried ./pdlua/pdlua.l_ia64 and failed > >> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**extra/pdlua/pdlua.l_ia64 and failed > >> tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/**pdlua/pdlua.l_ia64 and failed > >> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/**pdlua/pdlua.l_ia64 and failed > >> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**pdlua/pdlua.l_ia64 and failed > >> tried ./pdlua/pdlua.pd_linux and failed > >> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**extra/pdlua/pdlua.pd_linux and failed > >> tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/**pdlua/pdlua.pd_linux and failed > >> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/**pdlua/pdlua.pd_linux and failed > >> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**pdlua/pdlua.pd_linux and succeeded > >> watchdog: signaling pd... > >> verbose(3): pdlua 0.7.1 (GPL) 2012 Martin Peach, based on > >> verbose(3): lua 0.6~svn (GPL) 2008 Claude Heiland-Allen < > >> [email protected]> > >> verbose(3): pdlua: compiled for pd-0.43 on Jan 20 2013 09:23:51 > >> verbose(4): Loading tclpd in /usr/lib/pd-extended/startup/**tclpd > >> tried ./tclpd.l_ia64 and failed > >> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**extra/tclpd.l_ia64 and failed > >> tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/**tclpd.l_ia64 and failed > >> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/**tclpd.l_ia64 and failed > >> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**tclpd.l_ia64 and failed > >> tried ./tclpd.pd_linux and failed > >> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**extra/tclpd.pd_linux and failed > >> tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/**tclpd.pd_linux and failed > >> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/**tclpd.pd_linux and failed > >> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**tclpd.pd_linux and failed > >> tried ./tclpd/tclpd.l_ia64 and failed > >> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**extra/tclpd/tclpd.l_ia64 and failed > >> tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/**tclpd/tclpd.l_ia64 and failed > >> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/**tclpd/tclpd.l_ia64 and failed > >> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**tclpd/tclpd.l_ia64 and failed > >> tried ./tclpd/tclpd.pd_linux and failed > >> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**extra/tclpd/tclpd.pd_linux and failed > >> tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/**tclpd/tclpd.pd_linux and failed > >> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/**tclpd/tclpd.pd_linux and failed > >> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**tclpd/tclpd.pd_linux and succeeded > >> verbose(3): tclpd loader v0.3.0 > >> verbose(3): tclpd: trying to load /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/** > >> tclpd/tclpd.tcl... > >> verbose(3): tclpd: loaded /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**tclpd/tclpd.tcl > >> verbose(4): Loading vanilla in /usr/lib/pd-extended/startup/**vanilla > >> tried ./vanilla.l_ia64 and failed > >> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**extra/vanilla.l_ia64 and failed > >> tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/**vanilla.l_ia64 and failed > >> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/**vanilla.l_ia64 and failed > >> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**vanilla.l_ia64 and failed > >> tried ./vanilla.pd_linux and failed > >> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**extra/vanilla.pd_linux and failed > >> tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/**vanilla.pd_linux and failed > >> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/**vanilla.pd_linux and failed > >> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**vanilla.pd_linux and failed > >> tried ./vanilla/vanilla.l_ia64 and failed > >> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**extra/vanilla/vanilla.l_ia64 and > failed > >> tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/**vanilla/vanilla.l_ia64 and failed > >> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/**vanilla/vanilla.l_ia64 and failed > >> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**vanilla/vanilla.l_ia64 and failed > >> tried ./vanilla/vanilla.pd_linux and failed > >> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**extra/vanilla/vanilla.pd_linux and > >> failed > >> tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/**vanilla/vanilla.pd_linux and failed > >> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/**vanilla/vanilla.pd_linux and failed > >> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**vanilla/vanilla.pd_linux and failed > >> tried ./vanilla/vanilla-meta.pd and failed > >> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**extra/vanilla/vanilla-meta.pd and > >> failed > >> tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/**vanilla/vanilla-meta.pd and failed > >> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/**vanilla/vanilla-meta.pd and failed > >> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**vanilla/vanilla-meta.pd and succeeded > >> verbose(3): libdir_loader: added 'vanilla' to the global objectclass > path > >> verbose(14): Loaded libdir 'vanilla' from '/usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/** > >> vanilla' > >> > >> If i try to open a new patch and create and [list], it has only one > inlet. > >> > >> then i restart pd-ext, and If i try to open a new patch and [import > list], > >> i get > >> > >> tried /home/batinste/list.l_ia64 and failed > >> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**extra/list.l_ia64 and failed > >> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**vanilla/list.l_ia64 and failed > >> tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/**list.l_ia64 and failed > >> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/**list.l_ia64 and failed > >> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**list.l_ia64 and failed > >> tried /home/batinste/list.pd_linux and failed > >> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**extra/list.pd_linux and failed > >> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**vanilla/list.pd_linux and succeeded > >> verbose(3): [import] loaded library: 'list' > >> > >> Then i try to create a [list], it has 2 inlets. > >> > >> my .pdextended : > >> > >> audioapi: 2 > >> noaudioin: True > >> noaudioout: True > >> audiobuf: 50 > >> rate: 44100 > >> callback: 0 > >> blocksize: 64 > >> nomidiin: True > >> nomidiout: True > >> npath: 0 > >> standardpath: 1 > >> verbose: 1 > >> nloadlib: 0 > >> defeatrt: 0 > >> flags: > >> > >> > >> my /usr/lib/pd-extended/default.**pdextended : > >> > >> audioapi: 1 > >> standardpath: 1 > >> verbose: 0 > >> defeatrt: 0 > >> flags: > >> loadlib1: Gem > >> loadlib2: cyclone > >> loadlib3: zexy > >> loadlib4: creb > >> loadlib5: cxc > >> loadlib6: iemlib > >> loadlib7: list-abs > >> loadlib8: mapping > >> loadlib9: markex > >> loadlib10: maxlib > >> loadlib11: mjlib > >> loadlib12: motex > >> loadlib13: oscx > >> loadlib14: pddp > >> loadlib15: pdogg > >> loadlib16: pmpd > >> loadlib17: sigpack > >> loadlib18: smlib > >> loadlib19: unauthorized > >> loadlib20: pan > >> loadlib21: hcs > >> loadlib22: jmmmp > >> loadlib23: ext13 > >> loadlib24: ggee > >> loadlib25: iem_anything > >> loadlib26: ekext > >> loadlib27: flatgui > >> loadlib28: chaos > >> loadlib29: pdp > >> nloadlib: 29 > >> path1: /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-**conf.d/dirs/TrueType > >> npath: 1 > >> > >> > >> if it's a bug, i'll happily file it. > >> > >> On 21/01/2013 02:41, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > >> > >>> On Jan 20, 2013, at 5:52 PM, batinste wrote: > >>> > >>> On 20/01/2013 21:02, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> On 01/20/2013 06:36 AM, batinste wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> I was intrigued by this [$@< bug (mainly because i didn't knew about > >>>>>> this $@ > >>>>>> thingy), so i decided to give it a try. Attached is my test patch. > It > >>>>>> crashes > >>>>>> on my ubuntu 12.10 64bits, Pd-l2ork version 20130111 compiled > 13:18:07 > >>>>>> Jan 11 > >>>>>> 2013, way before reaching 1000 args. I launch it in my terminal > with : > >>>>>> > >>>>>> ~$ pd-l2ork test-dollar-at.pd > >>>>>> > >>>>>> All i have to do is continuously move my mouse over the patch while > >>>>>> it's > >>>>>> running, and it will crash around 100 args. You can also try to play > >>>>>> with the > >>>>>> vslider, it will crash. OR (curiously), it won't crash when moving > the > >>>>>> mouse, > >>>>>> but going in and out of edit mode or saving will make it crash... > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On a side note, look at the patch cord going out of the vslider : it > >>>>>> looks > >>>>>> weird to me, like attached a few pixels under the vslider, not > directly > >>>>>> connected to it. > >>>>>> > >>>>> That's worth a bug report! It worked for me: I left it alone for a > >>>>> while and > >>>>> it went to 24817, then once I clicked in the patch, it crashed > >>>>> instantly. > >>>>> Batinste, could you file a bug report and include your patch? > >>>>> > >>>>> ok ! > >>>> > >>>>> Ok now, the fun part : > >>>>>> When i open this patch with pd-extended (Pd-0.43.4 > >>>>>> ("extended-20130118") > >>>>>> compiled 09:30:52 Jan 18 2013), [list] only has one inlet (it should > >>>>>> have 2, > >>>>>> given that it's supposed to behave like [list append]) and when i > want > >>>>>> to see > >>>>>> [list]'s help file, pd-ext opens bang's help file... When i open the > >>>>>> same > >>>>>> patch with pd-l2ork, the lists do have 2 inlets. Oh, and pd-extended > >>>>>> happened > >>>>>> to display lists with their 2 inlets, but i can't reproduce this > >>>>>> reliably. I > >>>>>> tried to open the patch with -noprefs (to ensure that i didn't have > a > >>>>>> forgotten [list] abstraction somewhere) same issue. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Am i cursed or something ? > >>>>>> > >>>>> I've never seen the [list] with the single inlet bug. Can you send > me > >>>>> a patch > >>>>> to reproduce it? I think that would happen if you run 'pd-extended > >>>>> -nostartup' which will prevent the list lib from being automatically > >>>>> loaded at > >>>>> startup. > >>>>> > >>>>> -noprefs won't disable loading from ~/pd-externals or > >>>>> /usr/local/lib/pd-externals since that's hard coded in Pd. > >>>>> > >>>>> .hc > >>>>> > >>>>> oops my bad, i did not see this : error: > /usr/lib/pd-extended/startup/ > >>>> **1.list.pd_linux: can't load startup library'! > >>>> It was with the patch i attached earlier. > >>>> > >>> > >>> Where you able to fix that error? That file is definitely included in > the > >>> packages that I've tried. > >>> > >>> .hc > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On 20/01/2013 07:35, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> From: Ivica Ico Bukvic <[email protected]> > >>>>>>>> To: 'Jonathan Wilkes' <[email protected]>; 'Hans-Christoph > Steiner' > >>>>>>>> <[email protected]> > >>>>>>>> Cc: [email protected] > >>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2013 11:21 PM > >>>>>>>> Subject: RE: [PD] enhance pd-extended with pd-l2ork featues ? > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Why not simply use pd-l2ork? > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> I do, but possible reasons why someone might not use Pd-l2ork: > >>>>>>>>> * no binary for windows > >>>>>>>>> * no binary for OSX > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On the flip-side pd-l2ork provides a solid, bug-free environment > on > >>>>>>>> Linux > >>>>>>>> and looks a lot more contemporary than the aged default tk > >>>>>>>> iteration. In > >>>>>>>> other words, it is a targeted Linux distribution of pd (something > >>>>>>>> that can > >>>>>>>> be easily lost in a cross-platform effort with inadequate > developer > >>>>>>>> support, > >>>>>>>> as I am sure Hans can attest to). At this point I would go as far > as > >>>>>>>> challenge you to find something that does not work or exhibits a > >>>>>>>> buggy > >>>>>>>> behavior > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> $@ in msg box probably still crashes when incoming args > 1000 > (same > >>>>>>> with > >>>>>>> pd-extended) > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> -Jonathan > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> ______________________________**_________________ > >>>>>>> [email protected] mailing list > >>>>>>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > >>>>>>> http://lists.puredata.info/**listinfo/pd-list< > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>> > >> > >> ______________________________**_________________ > >> [email protected] mailing list > >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/** > >> listinfo/pd-list <http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list> > >> > > >
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