Also, does it happen if you use the Ubuntu/oneiric package (should work for wheezy, you might want to use quantal or raring for sid):
https://launchpad.net/~eighthave/+archive/pd-extended/+files/pd-extended_0.43.4%7E20130121-1%7Eoneiric_amd64.deb .hc On 01/21/2013 04:37 PM, Julian Brooks wrote: > Yip yip - same here: > > 0.43.4-extended-20130107 > > WARNING: 64-bit builds are still beta, some libraries are known to have > serious issues (cyclone, maxlib, moonlib, moocow, pdp, bsaylor, etc.) > /usr/lib/pd-extended/tcl/../startup/1.list.pd_linux: can't load startup > library'! > > > [list] has only one inlet. > > Debian Sid/Wheezy 64b. > > > Best wishes, > > Julian > > > > On 21 January 2013 21:26, batinste <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Weirder and weirder. Pd-ext still cannot load 1.list.pd_linux. I get >> >> error: /usr/lib/pd-extended/startup/**1.list.pd_linux: can't load startup >> library'! >> >> but : >> >> ~$ ls /usr/lib/pd-extended/startup/ | grep list >> 1.list.pd_linux >> >> >> So i deinstalled the last auto-build of Pd-extended for ubuntu 12.10 x64 : >> >> ~$ sudo dpkg --purge pd-extended >> (Lecture de la base de données... 303007 fichiers et répertoires déjà >> installés.) >> Suppression de pd-extended ... >> Purge des fichiers de configuration de pd-extended ... >> dpkg : avertissement : while removing pd-extended, directory >> '/usr/lib/pd-extended/extra' not empty so not removed >> Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour « hicolor-icon-theme >> »... >> Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour « bamfdaemon »... >> Rebuilding /usr/share/applications/bamf.**index... >> Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour « desktop-file-utils >> »... >> Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour « gnome-menus »... >> Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour « man-db »... >> Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour « menu »... >> Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour « shared-mime-info >> »... >> Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour « ureadahead »... >> >> in the extra directory are ANN library and the missing earplug_data.txt. >> It shouldn't interfere with the rest. >> >> Then i removed preferences backups i did in my /home/me : .pdextended, >> .pdextended~, .pdextended.**thisoneactuallyworks, etc :) >> >> Then, downloaded Pd-0.43.4-extended-ubuntu-**quantal-amd64.deb from >> http://autobuild.puredata.**info/auto-build/latest/<http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/latest/>and >> >> ~$ sudo dpkg -i Desktop/Pd-0.43.4-extended-**ubuntu-quantal-amd64.deb >> Sélection du paquet pd-extended précédemment désélectionné. >> (Lecture de la base de données... 295934 fichiers et répertoires déjà >> installés.) >> Dépaquetage de pd-extended (à partir de >> .../Pd-0.43.4-extended-ubuntu-**quantal-amd64.deb) >> ... >> Paramétrage de pd-extended (0.43.4-extended) ... >> Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour « ureadahead »... >> Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour « shared-mime-info >> »... >> Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour « menu »... >> Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour « man-db »... >> Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour « bamfdaemon »... >> Rebuilding /usr/share/applications/bamf.**index... >> Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour « desktop-file-utils >> »... >> Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour « gnome-menus »... >> Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour « hicolor-icon-theme >> »... >> >> and finally >> :~$ pd-extended -stderr -verbose >> input channels = 0, output channels = 0 >> Pd-0.43.4 ("extended") compiled 09:20:08 Jan 20 2013 >> port 5400 >> TCL_LIBRARY="/usr/lib/pd-**extended/lib/tcl/library" >> TK_LIBRARY="/usr/lib/pd-**extended/lib/tk/library" wish8.5 >> "/usr/lib/pd-extended/tcl//pd-**gui.tcl" 5400 >> priority 6 scheduling enabled. >> Waiting for connection request... >> priority 8 scheduling enabled. >> /usr/lib/pd-extended/bin/pd-**watchdog >> ... connected >> opened 0 MIDI input device(s) and 0 MIDI output device(s). >> input channels = 0, output channels = 0 >> Fontconfig warning: "/etc/fonts/conf.d/50-user.**conf", line 9: reading >> configurations from ~/.fonts.conf is deprecated. >> verbose(5): Using /usr/lib/pd-extended/startup as startup. >> verbose(4): Loading /usr/lib/pd-extended/startup/**0.libdir.pd_linux >> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**libdir/libdir.l_ia64 and failed >> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**libdir/libdir.pd_linux and succeeded >> verbose(3): libdir loader 1.9 >> verbose(3): compiled on Jan 20 2013 at 09:23:51 >> verbose(3): compiled against Pd version 0.43.4.extended >> verbose(4): Loading /usr/lib/pd-extended/startup/**1.list.pd_linux >> tried ./`Lp.l_ia64 and failed >> tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/`**Lp.l_ia64 and failed >> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/`**Lp.l_ia64 and failed >> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/`**Lp.l_ia64 and failed >> tried ./`Lp.pd_linux and failed >> tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/`**Lp.pd_linux and failed >> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/`**Lp.pd_linux and failed >> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/`**Lp.pd_linux and failed >> tried ./`Lp/`Lp.l_ia64 and failed >> tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/`**Lp/`Lp.l_ia64 and failed >> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/`**Lp/`Lp.l_ia64 and failed >> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/`**Lp/`Lp.l_ia64 and failed >> tried ./`Lp/`Lp.pd_linux and failed >> tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/`**Lp/`Lp.pd_linux and failed >> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/`**Lp/`Lp.pd_linux and failed >> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/`**Lp/`Lp.pd_linux and failed >> tried -meta.pd and failed >> error: /usr/lib/pd-extended/startup/**1.list.pd_linux: can't load startup >> library'! >> >> verbose(4): Loading extra in /usr/lib/pd-extended/startup/**extra >> tried ./extra.l_ia64 and failed >> tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/**extra.l_ia64 and failed >> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/**extra.l_ia64 and failed >> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**extra.l_ia64 and failed >> tried ./extra.pd_linux and failed >> tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/**extra.pd_linux and failed >> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/**extra.pd_linux and failed >> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**extra.pd_linux and failed >> tried ./extra/extra.l_ia64 and failed >> tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/**extra/extra.l_ia64 and failed >> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/**extra/extra.l_ia64 and failed >> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**extra/extra.l_ia64 and failed >> tried ./extra/extra.pd_linux and failed >> tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/**extra/extra.pd_linux and failed >> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/**extra/extra.pd_linux and failed >> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**extra/extra.pd_linux and failed >> tried ./extra/extra-meta.pd and failed >> tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/**extra/extra-meta.pd and failed >> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/**extra/extra-meta.pd and failed >> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**extra/extra-meta.pd and succeeded >> verbose(3): libdir_loader: added 'extra' to the global objectclass path >> verbose(14): Loaded libdir 'extra' from '/usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/** >> extra' >> verbose(4): Loading pdlua in /usr/lib/pd-extended/startup/**pdlua >> tried ./pdlua.l_ia64 and failed >> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**extra/pdlua.l_ia64 and failed >> tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/**pdlua.l_ia64 and failed >> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/**pdlua.l_ia64 and failed >> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**pdlua.l_ia64 and failed >> tried ./pdlua.pd_linux and failed >> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**extra/pdlua.pd_linux and failed >> tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/**pdlua.pd_linux and failed >> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/**pdlua.pd_linux and failed >> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**pdlua.pd_linux and failed >> tried ./pdlua/pdlua.l_ia64 and failed >> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**extra/pdlua/pdlua.l_ia64 and failed >> tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/**pdlua/pdlua.l_ia64 and failed >> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/**pdlua/pdlua.l_ia64 and failed >> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**pdlua/pdlua.l_ia64 and failed >> tried ./pdlua/pdlua.pd_linux and failed >> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**extra/pdlua/pdlua.pd_linux and failed >> tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/**pdlua/pdlua.pd_linux and failed >> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/**pdlua/pdlua.pd_linux and failed >> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**pdlua/pdlua.pd_linux and succeeded >> watchdog: signaling pd... >> verbose(3): pdlua 0.7.1 (GPL) 2012 Martin Peach, based on >> verbose(3): lua 0.6~svn (GPL) 2008 Claude Heiland-Allen < >> [email protected]> >> verbose(3): pdlua: compiled for pd-0.43 on Jan 20 2013 09:23:51 >> verbose(4): Loading tclpd in /usr/lib/pd-extended/startup/**tclpd >> tried ./tclpd.l_ia64 and failed >> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**extra/tclpd.l_ia64 and failed >> tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/**tclpd.l_ia64 and failed >> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/**tclpd.l_ia64 and failed >> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**tclpd.l_ia64 and failed >> tried ./tclpd.pd_linux and failed >> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**extra/tclpd.pd_linux and failed >> tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/**tclpd.pd_linux and failed >> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/**tclpd.pd_linux and failed >> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**tclpd.pd_linux and failed >> tried ./tclpd/tclpd.l_ia64 and failed >> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**extra/tclpd/tclpd.l_ia64 and failed >> tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/**tclpd/tclpd.l_ia64 and failed >> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/**tclpd/tclpd.l_ia64 and failed >> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**tclpd/tclpd.l_ia64 and failed >> tried ./tclpd/tclpd.pd_linux and failed >> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**extra/tclpd/tclpd.pd_linux and failed >> tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/**tclpd/tclpd.pd_linux and failed >> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/**tclpd/tclpd.pd_linux and failed >> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**tclpd/tclpd.pd_linux and succeeded >> verbose(3): tclpd loader v0.3.0 >> verbose(3): tclpd: trying to load /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/** >> tclpd/tclpd.tcl... >> verbose(3): tclpd: loaded /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**tclpd/tclpd.tcl >> verbose(4): Loading vanilla in /usr/lib/pd-extended/startup/**vanilla >> tried ./vanilla.l_ia64 and failed >> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**extra/vanilla.l_ia64 and failed >> tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/**vanilla.l_ia64 and failed >> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/**vanilla.l_ia64 and failed >> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**vanilla.l_ia64 and failed >> tried ./vanilla.pd_linux and failed >> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**extra/vanilla.pd_linux and failed >> tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/**vanilla.pd_linux and failed >> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/**vanilla.pd_linux and failed >> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**vanilla.pd_linux and failed >> tried ./vanilla/vanilla.l_ia64 and failed >> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**extra/vanilla/vanilla.l_ia64 and failed >> tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/**vanilla/vanilla.l_ia64 and failed >> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/**vanilla/vanilla.l_ia64 and failed >> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**vanilla/vanilla.l_ia64 and failed >> tried ./vanilla/vanilla.pd_linux and failed >> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**extra/vanilla/vanilla.pd_linux and >> failed >> tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/**vanilla/vanilla.pd_linux and failed >> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/**vanilla/vanilla.pd_linux and failed >> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**vanilla/vanilla.pd_linux and failed >> tried ./vanilla/vanilla-meta.pd and failed >> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**extra/vanilla/vanilla-meta.pd and >> failed >> tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/**vanilla/vanilla-meta.pd and failed >> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/**vanilla/vanilla-meta.pd and failed >> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**vanilla/vanilla-meta.pd and succeeded >> verbose(3): libdir_loader: added 'vanilla' to the global objectclass path >> verbose(14): Loaded libdir 'vanilla' from '/usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/** >> vanilla' >> >> If i try to open a new patch and create and [list], it has only one inlet. >> >> then i restart pd-ext, and If i try to open a new patch and [import list], >> i get >> >> tried /home/batinste/list.l_ia64 and failed >> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**extra/list.l_ia64 and failed >> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**vanilla/list.l_ia64 and failed >> tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/**list.l_ia64 and failed >> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/**list.l_ia64 and failed >> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**list.l_ia64 and failed >> tried /home/batinste/list.pd_linux and failed >> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**extra/list.pd_linux and failed >> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**vanilla/list.pd_linux and succeeded >> verbose(3): [import] loaded library: 'list' >> >> Then i try to create a [list], it has 2 inlets. >> >> my .pdextended : >> >> audioapi: 2 >> noaudioin: True >> noaudioout: True >> audiobuf: 50 >> rate: 44100 >> callback: 0 >> blocksize: 64 >> nomidiin: True >> nomidiout: True >> npath: 0 >> standardpath: 1 >> verbose: 1 >> nloadlib: 0 >> defeatrt: 0 >> flags: >> >> >> my /usr/lib/pd-extended/default.**pdextended : >> >> audioapi: 1 >> standardpath: 1 >> verbose: 0 >> defeatrt: 0 >> flags: >> loadlib1: Gem >> loadlib2: cyclone >> loadlib3: zexy >> loadlib4: creb >> loadlib5: cxc >> loadlib6: iemlib >> loadlib7: list-abs >> loadlib8: mapping >> loadlib9: markex >> loadlib10: maxlib >> loadlib11: mjlib >> loadlib12: motex >> loadlib13: oscx >> loadlib14: pddp >> loadlib15: pdogg >> loadlib16: pmpd >> loadlib17: sigpack >> loadlib18: smlib >> loadlib19: unauthorized >> loadlib20: pan >> loadlib21: hcs >> loadlib22: jmmmp >> loadlib23: ext13 >> loadlib24: ggee >> loadlib25: iem_anything >> loadlib26: ekext >> loadlib27: flatgui >> loadlib28: chaos >> loadlib29: pdp >> nloadlib: 29 >> path1: /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-**conf.d/dirs/TrueType >> npath: 1 >> >> >> if it's a bug, i'll happily file it. >> >> On 21/01/2013 02:41, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: >> >>> On Jan 20, 2013, at 5:52 PM, batinste wrote: >>> >>> On 20/01/2013 21:02, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 01/20/2013 06:36 AM, batinste wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I was intrigued by this [$@< bug (mainly because i didn't knew about >>>>>> this $@ >>>>>> thingy), so i decided to give it a try. Attached is my test patch. It >>>>>> crashes >>>>>> on my ubuntu 12.10 64bits, Pd-l2ork version 20130111 compiled 13:18:07 >>>>>> Jan 11 >>>>>> 2013, way before reaching 1000 args. I launch it in my terminal with : >>>>>> >>>>>> ~$ pd-l2ork test-dollar-at.pd >>>>>> >>>>>> All i have to do is continuously move my mouse over the patch while >>>>>> it's >>>>>> running, and it will crash around 100 args. You can also try to play >>>>>> with the >>>>>> vslider, it will crash. OR (curiously), it won't crash when moving the >>>>>> mouse, >>>>>> but going in and out of edit mode or saving will make it crash... >>>>>> >>>>>> On a side note, look at the patch cord going out of the vslider : it >>>>>> looks >>>>>> weird to me, like attached a few pixels under the vslider, not directly >>>>>> connected to it. >>>>>> >>>>> That's worth a bug report! It worked for me: I left it alone for a >>>>> while and >>>>> it went to 24817, then once I clicked in the patch, it crashed >>>>> instantly. >>>>> Batinste, could you file a bug report and include your patch? >>>>> >>>>> ok ! >>>> >>>>> Ok now, the fun part : >>>>>> When i open this patch with pd-extended (Pd-0.43.4 >>>>>> ("extended-20130118") >>>>>> compiled 09:30:52 Jan 18 2013), [list] only has one inlet (it should >>>>>> have 2, >>>>>> given that it's supposed to behave like [list append]) and when i want >>>>>> to see >>>>>> [list]'s help file, pd-ext opens bang's help file... When i open the >>>>>> same >>>>>> patch with pd-l2ork, the lists do have 2 inlets. Oh, and pd-extended >>>>>> happened >>>>>> to display lists with their 2 inlets, but i can't reproduce this >>>>>> reliably. I >>>>>> tried to open the patch with -noprefs (to ensure that i didn't have a >>>>>> forgotten [list] abstraction somewhere) same issue. >>>>>> >>>>>> Am i cursed or something ? >>>>>> >>>>> I've never seen the [list] with the single inlet bug. Can you send me >>>>> a patch >>>>> to reproduce it? I think that would happen if you run 'pd-extended >>>>> -nostartup' which will prevent the list lib from being automatically >>>>> loaded at >>>>> startup. >>>>> >>>>> -noprefs won't disable loading from ~/pd-externals or >>>>> /usr/local/lib/pd-externals since that's hard coded in Pd. >>>>> >>>>> .hc >>>>> >>>>> oops my bad, i did not see this : error: /usr/lib/pd-extended/startup/ >>>> **1.list.pd_linux: can't load startup library'! >>>> It was with the patch i attached earlier. >>>> >>> >>> Where you able to fix that error? That file is definitely included in the >>> packages that I've tried. >>> >>> .hc >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 20/01/2013 07:35, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> From: Ivica Ico Bukvic <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> To: 'Jonathan Wilkes' <[email protected]>; 'Hans-Christoph Steiner' >>>>>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> Cc: [email protected] >>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2013 11:21 PM >>>>>>>> Subject: RE: [PD] enhance pd-extended with pd-l2ork featues ? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> > Why not simply use pd-l2ork? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I do, but possible reasons why someone might not use Pd-l2ork: >>>>>>>>> * no binary for windows >>>>>>>>> * no binary for OSX >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On the flip-side pd-l2ork provides a solid, bug-free environment on >>>>>>>> Linux >>>>>>>> and looks a lot more contemporary than the aged default tk >>>>>>>> iteration. In >>>>>>>> other words, it is a targeted Linux distribution of pd (something >>>>>>>> that can >>>>>>>> be easily lost in a cross-platform effort with inadequate developer >>>>>>>> support, >>>>>>>> as I am sure Hans can attest to). At this point I would go as far as >>>>>>>> challenge you to find something that does not work or exhibits a >>>>>>>> buggy >>>>>>>> behavior >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> $@ in msg box probably still crashes when incoming args > 1000 (same >>>>>>> with >>>>>>> pd-extended) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -Jonathan >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ______________________________**_________________ >>>>>>> [email protected] mailing list >>>>>>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >>>>>>> http://lists.puredata.info/**listinfo/pd-list<http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>> >> >> ______________________________**_________________ >> [email protected] mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/** >> listinfo/pd-list <http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list> >> > _______________________________________________ [email protected] mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
