>________________________________
> From: Scott R. Looney <[email protected]>
>To: Daniel Iglesia <[email protected]> 
>Cc: pd-list <[email protected]> 
>Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 1:34 PM
>Subject: Re: [PD] MobMuPlat for Ipad and expr~ woes
> 
>
>peter brinkmann is the guy who who would know best, but i seem to remember 
>pretty clearly that he stated somewhere [expr] and [expr~] were ok to use with 
>libPD on the AppStore. in other words (i assume) they had been recompiled from 
>source in a more compatible license.
>
>
>here's the bit that clearly states that the vanilla version of PD does not 
>have the right version of [expr] and [expr~] this is older news from about 
>2011 i think:
>
>
>https://github.com/libpd/libpd/wiki/misc


Notice that even in libpd git the license for vexpr.c is GPLv3+

By the way-- did ALL authors of expr agree to the license change I see five 
other names in the copyright notice.  Plus a few
names over the years who did revisions and added them on sourceforge, and you 
must get their permission to re-license as well.

And please keep in mind the energy it takes to do all this busywork which _may_ 
make running Pd + expr lib on _one_ specific
restrictive device slightly easier.  (As opposed to doing meaningful dev work 
like making the expr avg function do something.)

>
>
>
>and here's the bit where they mention [expr] and [expr~] are now under LGPL, 
>but it doesn't appear to solve the issue definitively:
>
>
>http://createdigitalnoise.com/discussion/1341/can-i-use-pd-extended-with-libpd/p1
>
>
>
>the total solution if you want that specific functionality (that i am aware 
>of) is to recompile [expr] and [expr~]  from source and put it under a BSD or 
>MIT license.

Re-licensing doesn't work that way.

-Jonathan

>
>
>the alternative is to redo that functionality with simple vanilla objects. 
>there's a nice thread her on the PD forum about it:
>
>
>http://puredata.hurleur.com/sujet-6980-way-rewrite-expr
>
>
>
>hope this helps somewhat,
>
>
>best,
>scott
>
>
>
>On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 9:45 AM, Daniel Iglesia <[email protected]> 
>wrote:
>
>Hi everyone, (first time poster!)
>>
>>expr and expr~ can't be in a closed-source binary. (the libpd doc has some 
>>discussion of this I believe). Once I release MobMuPlat open source, I was 
>>hoping to include them in the binary+source at that point. However, I have to 
>>check the licensing issues to see if even that is allowed, as MobMuPlat is 
>>and will be under the BSD license. (if people are well versed in this issue, 
>>please feel free to chime in.)
>>
>>If they can't be included, then removing them from the pd-vanilla flavor in 
>>the distribution is probably a good idea, will do that.
>>
>>Best, Dan
>>
>>===
>>www.danieliglesia.com
>>www.iglesiaintermedia.com
>>
>>
>>
>>On Mar 18, 2013, at 8:50 AM, Patrick Pagano wrote:
>>
>>> That's one of 20 expr~s that i need :-(
>>>
>>>
>>> On 03/18/2013 11:01 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 2013-03-18 at 13:52 +0000, Pagano, Patrick wrote:
>>>>> damnit.
>>>>> Any idea when that might be or a workaround?
>>>>> silent weeping
>>>>
>>>>> expr if($f1-$f2==0, 0, 1)
>>>>
>>>> [!= ]  ?
>>>>
>>>> Roman
>>>>
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