Hi,

On 09/08/13 04:27, Miller Puckette wrote:
> Here's a guess - I think each copy of the abstraction binds itself to
> a symbol, "pd-<name>". Binding is fast bt unbinding is linear-time in the
> number of things bound to the symbol... ouch.

Yes, I think that's it:

git master from yesterday
Pd-0.45.0 ("test") compiled 17:10:02 Aug  8 2013
patch   bench   open    dsp     save    close
small   4.6e-05 38.775  1.34085 44.326  4.012
medium  5.2e-05 314.812 10.2582 715.956 144.512
large   4.7e-05 2639.28 85.3561 78711.5 35918

git master, lightly patched with the attached
Pd-0.45.0 ("test") compiled 14:36:39 Aug  9 2013
patch   bench   open    dsp     save    close
small   4.3e-05 36.167  1.31707 39.657  3.447
medium  4.4e-05 291.52  9.8958  327.389 18.067
large   4.3e-05 2443.07 82.0808 3628.66 224.972

> There's a good reason to bind toplevels and named sub-patches to ther names,
> but I think there's little reason to do it for abstractions - perhaps I can
> take this out, but I'd have to leave it as an option for compatibility (ouch!)

The attached patch doesn't do this, but it should be easy to add a
global compatibility flag to the new canvas_should_bind() function.

Toplevel patches are still bound to pd-<name>.pd and subpatches [pd
<name>] are still bound to pd-<name>; it's just abstraction instances
that no longer have the automatic binding.

> On Thu, Aug 08, 2013 at 10:46:24PM -0400, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
>> On 08/08/2013 04:57 PM, Claude Heiland-Allen wrote:

[snip]

>>> The killer in the bottom right corner: with 8x as many abstractions, it
>>> takes 100x as long to save an instance, and 200x as long to close the patch.

[snip]

>> Any idea why "save" is so much greater than close + open?

I think Miller had the answer.

>> Also, any idea what pd is doing for the bulk of that time when

I haven't profiled yet (I had trouble even getting debug symbols into an
installed Pd with the autoconf system, no success yet..), so the
following are just guesses:

>> saving

searching for copies of the abstraction to reload, then reloading them
via some select/cut/undo method (which preserves connections).  also
unbinding symbols...

>> closing 

calling all the destructors. also unbinding symbols...

>> opening

refinding/reloading/reparsing/reinstantiating all the abstractions (I
need to relocate my abstraction cache patches and update them to current Pd)

>> dsp'ing?

traversing each canvas to topologically sort its dsp objects and build
the dsp chain - which gets resizebytes() each time something is added,
could make it O(log(N)) count of resizes (doubling the size each time)
but I tried it and it saved about 9 microseconds, not worth the extra
complexity...


Claude
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http://mathr.co.uk

>From 16fd46b3abe83dba956b78385d01ad19737b6c76 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Claude Heiland-Allen <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2013 14:57:14 +0100
Subject: [PATCH] don't bind abstraction instances to pd-<filename>

---
 src/g_canvas.c |   39 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++----------
 1 file changed, 29 insertions(+), 10 deletions(-)

diff --git a/src/g_canvas.c b/src/g_canvas.c
index 804ac57..c7a22d6 100644
--- a/src/g_canvas.c
+++ b/src/g_canvas.c
@@ -55,6 +55,9 @@ void canvas_reflecttitle(t_canvas *x);
 static void canvas_addtolist(t_canvas *x);
 static void canvas_takeofflist(t_canvas *x);
 static void canvas_pop(t_canvas *x, t_floatarg fvis);
+static int canvas_should_bind(t_canvas *x);
+static void canvas_bind(t_canvas *x);
+static void canvas_unbind(t_canvas *x);
 
 /* --------- functions to handle the canvas environment ----------- */
 
@@ -205,11 +208,9 @@ void canvas_makefilename(t_canvas *x, char *file, char *result, int resultsize)
 
 void canvas_rename(t_canvas *x, t_symbol *s, t_symbol *dir)
 {
-    if (strcmp(x->gl_name->s_name, "Pd"))
-        pd_unbind(&x->gl_pd, canvas_makebindsym(x->gl_name));
+    canvas_unbind(x);
     x->gl_name = s;
-    if (strcmp(x->gl_name->s_name, "Pd"))
-        pd_bind(&x->gl_pd, canvas_makebindsym(x->gl_name));
+    canvas_bind(x);
     if (x->gl_havewindow)
         canvas_reflecttitle(x);
     if (dir && dir != &s_)
@@ -379,8 +380,7 @@ t_canvas *canvas_new(void *dummy, t_symbol *sel, int argc, t_atom *argv)
     x->gl_owner = owner;
     x->gl_name = (*s->s_name ? s : 
         (canvas_newfilename ? canvas_newfilename : gensym("Pd")));
-    if (strcmp(x->gl_name->s_name, "Pd"))
-        pd_bind(&x->gl_pd, canvas_makebindsym(x->gl_name));
+    canvas_bind(x);
     x->gl_loading = 1;
     x->gl_goprect = 0;      /* no GOP rectangle unless it's turned on later */
         /* cancel "vis" flag if we're a subpatch of an
@@ -479,9 +479,8 @@ t_glist *glist_addglist(t_glist *g, t_symbol *sym,
     x->gl_screeny1 = GLIST_DEFCANVASYLOC;
     x->gl_screenx2 = 450;
     x->gl_screeny2 = 300;
-    if (strcmp(x->gl_name->s_name, "Pd"))
-        pd_bind(&x->gl_pd, canvas_makebindsym(x->gl_name));
     x->gl_owner = g;
+    canvas_bind(x);
     x->gl_isgraph = 1;
     x->gl_goprect = 0;
     x->gl_obj.te_binbuf = binbuf_new();
@@ -723,8 +722,7 @@ void canvas_free(t_canvas *x)
         canvas_vis(x, 0);
     if (x->gl_editor)
         canvas_destroy_editor(x);   /* bug workaround; should already be gone*/
-    if (strcmp(x->gl_name->s_name, "Pd"))
-        pd_unbind(&x->gl_pd, canvas_makebindsym(x->gl_name));
+    canvas_unbind(x);
 
     if (x->gl_env)
     {
@@ -985,6 +983,27 @@ int canvas_isabstraction(t_canvas *x)
     return (x->gl_env != 0);
 }
 
+    /* return true if the "canvas" object should be bound to a name */
+static int canvas_should_bind(t_canvas *x)
+{
+        /* FIXME should have a "backwards compatible" mode */
+        /* not named "Pd" && (is top level || is subpatch) */
+    return strcmp(x->gl_name->s_name, "Pd") && (!x->gl_owner || !x->gl_env);
+}
+
+static void canvas_bind(t_canvas *x)
+{
+    if (canvas_should_bind(x))
+        pd_bind(&x->gl_pd, canvas_makebindsym(x->gl_name));
+}
+
+static void canvas_unbind(t_canvas *x)
+{
+    if (canvas_should_bind(x))
+        pd_unbind(&x->gl_pd, canvas_makebindsym(x->gl_name));
+}
+
+
     /* return true if the "canvas" object should be treated as a text
     object.  This is true for abstractions but also for "table"s... */
 /* JMZ: add a flag to gop-abstractions to hide the title */
-- 
1.7.10.4

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