On 2013-10-22 13:14, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
On 10/21/2013 09:38 PM, Dan Wilcox wrote:
Errr. That's not so easy. You need the 10.5 SDK which you can only get
with a *really* old version of Xcode which you probably can't install
on anything newer than OSX 10.6. It's possible to put older SDK's
themselves into the "right place" but, for something as old as the
10.5 SDK, it may not even work anymore. The only reliabel way to use
an old machine with 10.5 or 10.6 and an old version of Xcode, probably
Xcode 3.something.
IMHO, at this point, it's best to drop support for PPC for new
versions of pd. The *vast vast vast* majority of OSX users have moved
on at this point.
Just to make sure I understand: if someone has an old PPC Mac, they cannot
run stuff compiled for i386 or x86_64. There is no compatibility-mode
or anything
they can use to run the software. Is this correct?
Also, do you have any references for the claim that the vast majority of OSX
users have moved away from PPC? I find Jobs' claim that Apple doesn't ship
junk to generally be true, and combined with their development model the
unfortunate result would seem to be that poor people still using their once
sleek and sexy devices are ignored along with their now ugly, unprofitable
devices.
I think Apple hardware has a MTBF of about 3 years; their business model
relies on customers junking the old model at ever increasing rates and
buying the new one. The old one after all never quite worked properly
because they sold it before it was ready. I have a bunch of old Macs
around here that mostly won't start up anymore. Usually the hard drive
or the power supply fails.
Good luck replacing either.
I'm pissed because I've lost a lot of my work that way and with the
constant incompatibility from one version of MacOS to the next not to
mention the uninteroperability with any other OS.
So anyway PPC is obsolete and such a machine trying to run a new version
of any software would probably choke on it anyway.
And OSX on PPC was really slow, system9 worked better.
I think the best thing is to not upgrade at all and try to keep it
running the old software while not stressing the hardware in any way.
Martin
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