cool, so I supose we could share this cleanup process... right? I see a lot here about pd-l2ork, I've never used it cause I'm not on Linux but it looks like it could be an alternative to extended if it could also run in windows/mac OS. I'm assuming this has been asked/discussed before over here, but I'll shoot again: any plans for that happening?
cheers 2014-12-20 8:28 GMT-02:00 Ivica Bukvic <[email protected]>: > FWIW, a good chunk of this cleanup is currently taking place in pd-l2ork. > Namely, we are looking for redundant objects which are then disabled and > replaced by legacy abstractions where possible or linked to other objects > with identical or near identical functionality (again, where possible); we > are disabling problematic objects that have design issues (e.g. foxy and > flatspace IIRC), as well as looking to replace those with new objects that > provide said functionality the right way. Finally, we are looking to > standardize documentation (e.g. pd-l2ork has documentation for the entire > cyclone adapted to the pddp format). If anyone desires git access to assist > with this, please let us know. > > Please note that in this process the primary goal/mission/mantra is to > create a clean and consistent environment for new users which may also mean > that some of us weathered PD users may have to adapt our old patches > because certain objects may not be available anymore. > > Best, > > Ico > On Dec 19, 2014 1:49 PM, "Alexandre Torres Porres" <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Yep Alessio. It's time to mean business. So I volunteer >> >> *1. Identify which externals to include in the repo (for linux users, the >> folder /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra can be a good starting point)* >> >> The Pd extended libraries is a good starting point for all OS users, I >> guess. Not that I love all that there is there. IMHO there's a lot of junk. >> Even in the libraries I've mentioned I can't live without and are >> considered to be more stable I see some issues. Most of all, I'm usually >> unhappy about some help files that are quite crappy (like incomplete, >> sometimes the help files don't even work and you have to tweak them to hear >> something). >> >> Other stuff I see, for example... just yesterday I learned about a new >> object for me, [LFO_noise~], and it's not working properly (it's frequency >> is twice than it should be). Other than that, it is redundanct, there are >> also two other objects that do exactly the same: [rand~] from cyclone and >> [noisi~] from zexy. I'd say just throw this "extra not working properly one >> away". >> >> So I can volunteer to manage some of these libraries and rewrite the help >> files so that they are also vanilla compatible (that is, they don't call >> objects from other libraries, other than the ones from the same library). >> >> I can't code! And I've compiled anything only a couple of times in my >> life. So I can't really help much with coding, and that's why I'd rather >> throw something away that doesn't properly work and has alternatives from >> other libraries. But I don't oppose if someone wants to fix stuff. I >> remember it wasn't exactly rock science to compile libraries, so I guess I >> can try and do it for the latest MAC OS systems on intel machines. >> >> cheers >> >> 2014-12-19 9:51 GMT-02:00 Alessio Degani <[email protected]>: >> >>> At this point I think that we can start to talk about technical stuff >>> like roadmap, tasks, volunteers recruitment and so on :) >>> >>> The basic steps, IMHO, can be: >>> 1. Identify which externals to include in the repo (for linux users, the >>> folder /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra can be a good starting point) >>> 2. Identify which externals need to be compiled (some of them, as far as >>> I rememer, are not "true" external library, but a pd patch [intrinsically >>> cross-platform??]) >>> 3. Identify which externals are mainteined/unmaintained, and eventually, >>> contact the maintainers just to say: "hello, we are creating a shared repo >>> of externals. Are you interested? and so on..." >>> 4. Prioritize (i.e. most used extensions have the priority). >>> 5. Assign tasks >>> >>> In that context, a web platform can help to accomplish this preliminary >>> steps. For example github (that has a project wiki), or Azendoo (free -and >>> simple!- collaborative project management), to name a few. I'm not an >>> expert of this platform, but I use github for small projects and IMHO, >>> Azendoo (or something like that) it can help a lot for discussions, task >>> management and so on, without flooding the mailing list :) >>> >>> Here is just my thoughts... any idea/suggestion/alternative are >>> appreciated! :) >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Alessio >>> >>> >>> On 18/12/2014 20:50, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: >>> >>> Well, for starters, there could just be a repository with externals and >>> libraries :) >>> >>> I'm willing to help somehow. I'm not a programmer only, but I can help >>> organising it and stuff. Testing libraries, listing it, etc. >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> 2014-12-18 17:34 GMT-02:00 IOhannes m zmölnig <[email protected]>: >>>> >>>> On 12/18/2014 08:16 PM, Samuel Burt wrote: >>>> > 1. Opening a patch with [import cyclone] would automatically download >>>> the >>>> >>>> i *strongly* oppose to anything that automatically connects to the >>>> internet and fetches or submits data. >>>> >>>> mgfdsr >>>> IOhannes >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> [email protected] mailing list >>>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >>>> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________pd-l...@lists.iem.at mailing >>> list >>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >>> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> a. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> [email protected] mailing list >>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >>> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> [email protected] mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >> >>
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