On 2014-12-20 22:38, Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list wrote: > Is the idea to package an entire packaging system with Pd Vanilla?
For me the focus is now to create a sort of versionable, installable package for cyclone*. But it could well apply to much more. A possible structure could consist of several packages; pd-vanilla as core, depending on it a ring of libraries making it an 'almost Max/MSP clone' and a set of 'special-interest' libraries for those that want it. I am happy to see there is an apt-get of sorts for all essential non-linux platforms. There is still a lot of work to do, but we as pd-community with limited resources don't have to 'build it from scratch'. *) The hard-core crowd is happy with just a set of objects, but new-users might like some guidance. Apart from that, some inherent versioning is a good thing too. > > -Jonathan > Greetings, Fred Jan > > On Saturday, December 20, 2014 2:41 PM, András Murányi > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 8:29 PM, Fred Jan Kraan <[email protected]> wrote: > > On 2014-12-20 19:09, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: > > On 12/18/2014 10:13 PM, Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list wrote: > >> If there is a cross-platform repository system out there that is > well-tested and built to be _more_ secure than apt (i.e., defense > against replay attacks in the original design), perhaps it could be > leveraged. > >> Unfortunately I don't know anything about binary repo systems, > other than Debian's. > >> -Jonathan > >> > >> On Thursday, December 18, 2014 3:04 PM, Fred Jan Kraan > <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> > >> On 2014-12-18 20:34, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: > >>> On 12/18/2014 08:16 PM, Samuel Burt wrote: > >>>> 1. Opening a patch with [import cyclone] would automatically > download the > >>> > >>> i *strongly* oppose to anything that automatically connects to the > >>> internet and fetches or submits data. > >> > >> And the Pd-community currently does not have the resources to build > >> something that is similar or more advanced than the Debian > distribution > >> system and preferably be cross platform. > > > > > > so why not use apt? > > > > i mean, we could build on top of apt to do something "more" cross > platform. > > Debian (and thus apt) already handles multiple architectures and > > "operating systems" (well: kernels), so we just need a few others > archs: > > - w32-i386 > > - w32-amd64 > > - osx-i386 > > - osx-amd64 > > > > this would of course mean porting (parts of) apt to w32/osx (and i > have > > no clue how much work *that* means) > > Porting apt would indeed solve the Pd-distribution problem, and maybe > for more cross-platform packages. > > For MacOSX, the Fink package is based on Debian tools > (http://www.finkproject.org/). So that leaves Windows. > > >From the distant past I remember Inno Setup is free and usable > (http://www.jrsoftware.org/isinfo.php). As long as there is no native > apt for Windows that could do... > > Somehow, it looks a bit less abstract now :-). > > > > fgmrds > > IOhannes > > > Greetings, > > Fred Jan > > > > > http://sourceforge.net/projects/windows-get/ > https://chocolatey.org/ > http://dev.tranquil.it/wiki/WAPT_-_apt-get_pour_Windows > ? > > András > > _______________________________________________ > [email protected] mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > > _______________________________________________ > [email protected] mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > _______________________________________________ [email protected] mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
