hi list

>Max have features like auto-align horizontally/vertically and align and
>route patch cords which is very useful to >organize patch cords and
>make theĀ  thinks more readable. I like them a lot.

this is so old. this comparing .... so old. if you like your fancy
gui's, use them! have you heard of OSC? just dump whatever you want thru
it and run a headless instance of pd, where you recieve it. nobody will
even notice. are you a nerd or just pretending :P sorry no offence .)
peace ~/.jc
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