I would also point out that internal messages such as pd-dsp-started don't 
really come with an expected behavior for user patches.
I have to second Peter: the "pd-dsp-started" message is a public, documented message! It's just that not many people know it exists :-) Judging from the [samplerate~] help patch, the message has been added in Pd 0.47.

Christof

On 19.02.2020 10:46, Peter P. wrote:
* Dan Wilcox <[email protected]> [2020-02-19 10:38]:
I would also point out that internal messages such as pd-dsp-started don't really come 
with an expected behavior for user patches. Saying how it works is a "bug" 
belies that fact that I don't believe it was ever intended to be used for this and just 
because it can be grabbed via a [r] also doesn't guarantee anything.
The method you point out is shown in the help patch of [samplerate~]
without any reference that it should be considered a bug or temporary
measure.

This is also why it's so hard to change almost *any* behavior within Pd as you 
can never really be 100% certain you aren't breaking someone's end use case.
Do you feel this regression condition is much different in other software?

best, P



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