hans w. koch wrote:
hi,

on mac os 10.14.6 and pd 51-0 i don´t see scrollbars in any your examples
(i don´t have the propertybang installed, so your last case doesn´t apply)

am i missing sth?

no, but i was forgetting to include my specs ;-)

this occurs in Debian (4.19.98), PD 0.50.2

i also tested it on Windows 7, no scrollbars there.
obviously not on OSX either.

[propertybang] is not necessary to test this. it just seems that remote messages to relocate a window position (that don't produce what i call "visual representation" of a "click") lead to this scrollbar occurance.

([propertybang] does such a thing. you right-click on an "abstraction" and a "PROPERTIES" entry can be selected, just like in a vslider etc. Inside this abstraction a bang is sent out the IEMGUTS object [propertybang] - which i then use to open a specific window)

are there any other ways to open PD canvases with a specific size and position anybody here can think of ?

best

Oliver



best
hans

Am 05.06.2020 um 01:40 schrieb oliver <[email protected]>:

Hi,

i just discovered a really strange phenomenon when opening patch windows with 
remote messages

Attached is a test patch that presents the "problem":

The window is always opening with active scroll sidebars, even though there's 
nothing to scroll.

The only exception is, when the "relocate" message mechanism is done "by hand". 
Messages that are sent remotely or with a delay produce the scrollbars.

It really seems that the visual representation of a clicked BANG or a [message 
box( comes into play here, though i don't understand how or why.

It seems as if only as long as the window messages are passed WITHIN the "visual 
representation time" (in lack of a better description ... i mean the short 
thickening of the border of a message box when it is clicked with the mouse) the window 
is opening as it should (without sidebars).

I discovered this phenomenon using the [propertybang] external from IEMGUTS, 
where the window would only open with said sidebars.

To make matters worse, this behaviour is not consistent, but seems a little 
random. What's sure though, is that only a direct mouseclick onto a bang or 
message box reliably opens the window without sidebars.

Feels a little voodoo-ish to me ...

Cheers

Oliver
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