If any of these methods is cut, then my patches won't work anymore -
hopefully someone else's as well.
You are using private APIs. Nobody made a guarantee that it would work
forever.
That being said, we try not to change - let alone remove - those methods
unless absolutely necessary.
but I've been using them for more than 15 years with no big issues.
Well, a few years ago Miller changed the [donecanvasdialog( message. I
noticed that it will break dynamic patching and asked him to use a
workaround. He was nice enough to do it. So you were just lucky ;-)
Note that the messages found in Pd patch files, like [obj ...(, are
pretty stable. We can't really change them without breaking literally
all existing patches. However, anything else should really be considered
private. Particularly mnssages like [mouse(, [mouseup(,
[donecanvasdialog( are obviously internal messages sent between Pd core
and the GUI process. People just discovered them in the source code (or
by watching the GUI/Pd traffic) and started (ab)using them for dynamic
patching. The Pd extended folks included them in their documentation, so
usage became more wide-spread. However, it was never officially
supported in Pd vanilla.
Christof
On 27.11.2021 12:22, João Pais wrote:
Em sex., 26 de nov. de 2021 às 20:19, João Pais <[email protected]>
escreveu:
I don't see a mention to these messages: mouse, mouseup, mousedown,
relocate. And also all other messages related to gui stuff.
yeah, I didn't put it. It felt like something hard to document and
for more extreme cases. And now that Christof says I should really
keep out of this dark corner, I wonder if I did right.
I don't remember now exactly why these methods are "dangerous" and
"unofficial" (it was discussed already a lot in the list anyway), but
I've been using them for more than 15 years with no big issues. If any
of these methods is cut, then my patches won't work anymore -
hopefully someone else's as well.
It could also be clearly mentioned that subpatches receive
messages sent
to pd-[subpatch], and abstractions are named [abstraction].pd (if
I'm
recalling correctly) - unless there is a namecanvas used in those.
how isn't it clearly mentioned?
The first one is mentioned in [pd Dynamic-Patching], although it might
be easier to understand if there is an example immediately under the
text. But there are enough examples of [s pd-xxxx] in the patch anyway
to deduce it.
The second isn't mentioned at all, the search results for
"abstraction" and ".pd" return elements in other types of contexts.
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