Roli seaboard, linnstrument. Don't know if those have noteoff velocity, but they sure have MPE
On Mon, 3 Oct 2022, 00:39 Alexandre Torres Porres, <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Em dom., 2 de out. de 2022 às 16:56, Simon Iten <[email protected]> > escreveu: > >> there are “plenty” of polyphonic aftertouch controllers on the market, >> some of the newer MPE hardware controllers use CC messages for this though. >> (https://www.midi.org/midi-articles/midi-polyphonic-expression-mpe). >> some of them also have release velocity. >> > > examples of such controllers please? > > > >> there are also quite some softsynths that handle release velocity ( >> https://vital.audio for a free example), so i would not exactly say >> this is that rare. and also it will get more common again i guess. >> >> >> >> On 1 Oct 2022, at 15:36, Alexandre Torres Porres <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> Cool, but not a 'classic keyboard' controller. I don't know any modern >> one with release velocity, and also with polyphonic aftertouch (at least a >> decent/proper one that is not a pad and actually uses pressure after you >> press the note). >> cheers >> >> Em sex., 30 de set. de 2022 às 17:09, Peter Brinkmann < >> [email protected]> escreveu: >> >>> There's a new controller that uses Note Off velocity in an interesting >>> way --- the Artinoise re.corder >>> <https://www.recorderinstruments.com/en/> sends Note Off with nonzero >>> velocity between slurred notes. >>> >>> On Fri, Sep 30, 2022 at 9:30 AM Alexandre Torres Porres < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, the ELSE library has [else/note.in] and [else/note.out] which can >>>> handle proper note off messages. There's an object in cyclone (and also in >>>> MAX, of course) that can do that too, called [cyclone/xnotein] and >>>> [cyclone/xnoteout]. >>>> >>>> The use case of this is very rare as modern controllers don't really >>>> send note off messages anymore. I bought an old controller from the 80s >>>> that can do this, cause I'm a nerd and gear slut. >>>> >>>> Note Off messages start with channel messages from 128 to 143 (128 >>>> being channel 1 up to 143 being channel 16) as Dan's test patch points out. >>>> You can use raw midi input from vanilla to listen to this and get the next >>>> two values which are MIDI note and release velocity. >>>> >>>> I would also like this to be available in vanilla, but, hey, well, >>>> there are the mentioned externals already and this is quite rare as I >>>> pointed out. If you need to do it as a pure vanilla application for >>>> whatever reason, you can create such abstraction with [midiin]. >>>> >>>> cheers >>>> >>>> Em qui., 29 de set. de 2022 às 19:19, Dan Wilcox <[email protected]> >>>> escreveu: >>>> >>>>> Pd treats noteoff as a noteon with 0 velocity, hence the [stripnote] >>>>> object, etc. >>>>> >>>>> If you want to explicitly handle noteoff, you can look at the midi >>>>> tester patch for working with raw bytes... >>>>> >>>>> 1. Help -> Browser... >>>>> 2. Pure Data / 7.stuff / tools / miditester.pd >>>>> 3. receive [pd channel messages] >>>>> >>>>> On Sep 27, 2022, at 9:56 PM, [email protected] wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Message: 2 >>>>> Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2022 17:42:15 +0200 >>>>> From: Lorenzo Sutton <[email protected]> >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Subject: Re: [PD] MIDI / STATUS_BYTE / noteOn - noteOff mesage >>>>> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed >>>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> On 26/09/2022 20:43, Maurin Donneaud wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Dear List >>>>> >>>>> Looking at the MIDI 1.0 documentation : >>>>> >>>>> https://www.midi.org/specifications-old/item/table-2-expanded-messages-list-status-bytes >>>>> >>>>> I notice that the MIDI NOTES are transmitted over three bytes >>>>> ??? byte 1 -> STATUS_BYTE [chan & function] >>>>> ??? byte 2 -> DATA_BYTE [note] (0-127) >>>>> ??? byte 3 -> DATA_BYTE [velocity] (0-127) >>>>> >>>>> I'm wandering if Pd have a simple object to extract the noteOn / >>>>> noteOff >>>>> message from the STATUS_BYTE. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I think you should be able with [midiin]. >>>>> >>>>> Note that as per MIDI spec, 'note off' can be either an explicit 'note >>>>> >>>>> off' message also containing a 'release velocity' value or (more >>>>> common) >>>>> a note on with velocity equal to zero (for example this is how Pd does >>>>> a >>>>> note on/off if you use the [makenote] object. >>>>> >>>>> Lorenzo >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -------- >>>>> Dan Wilcox >>>>> @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> >>>>> danomatika.com >>>>> robotcowboy.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> [email protected] mailing list >>>>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >>>>> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> [email protected] mailing list >>>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >>>> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >> [email protected] mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >> >> >>
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