Tl:dr: I’m not married to the idea of dictionaries, I just want to be able to 
deal with complex data structures dynamically, simply, and to/from the api. 
Hence the OP: if there is a way that [text] can do that (I know it is API 
supported although no example nor documentation) then I can try to get it to 
work. I’ll try Alexandre’s [messdict].


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2c: I used to hate dicts, in Max, then in SC. Then I started to nest them. and 
that became incredibly powerful.

A few UX vignettes, if anyone is curious:

Example: you start a patch with states, you can make presets. Suddenly you can 
make preset of subpatches in their own dicts and recall them from a top dict. 
and the data is human readable. for growing projects, it is powerful.

another example: in flucoma, the neural nets are trained. you dump them as 
dict. Then in a workshop, people started to make presets of trainings, by 
nesting these complex dicts in dicts. I was flabbergasted. At the moment, there 
is no way to do that inside Pd… except saving the states on files (because 
flucoma supports that) and then reloading. a bit messy.

the last example: I wanted to do a leaky integrator of a multidimensional 
statful object. In Max and SC, I dump the state as a dict, mess 
programmatically with the dict, then load the new state in the object. A Pd 
user wanted to do that, and contacted me. they managed via [text] and temporary 
files, the hack works, but they are sad they cannot dump/load states like other 
users.






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