Interesting - but LX literature does not mention it - maybe the response of the SBC is 
indeed close to the average film characteristics and that is why I have never 
encountered reciprocity effects. But you should still filter for correct colour 
balance, whatever that is. Adams´ book is very old now but the basics still apply, of 
course. 
All the best!
Raimo
Personal photography homepage at http://personal.inet.fi/private/raimo.korhonen

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Lähettäjä: PAUL STENQUIST <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Päivä: 06. tammikuuta 2001 21:02
Aihe: Re: Vs: Vs: Macro Metering & Exposure Compensation


>Hi Raimo,
>Different films do exhibit different characteristics in regard to
>exposure requirements at longer shutter speeds, but are these
>differences truly significant? If so, why do so many sources publish
>charts to correct for reciprocity failure? For example, on page 45 of
>the paper-bound version of Ansel Adams "The Negative," you can find just
>such a chart. Ansel's chart, like every other one I've seen, prescribes
>a one stop increase at 1 second, two stops at ten seconds, and three
>stops at 100 seconds. (Ansel also recommends development adjustment to
>account for changes in contrast with BW film, and notes that color shift
>may occur with color films, which is in keeping with what you have
>said.) When using my meterless cameras I've relied on this chart and
>others like it with consistently good results. So these values are
>apparently somewhat constant, even if they vary a bit from one film
>stock to another. That makes me wonder if these values aren't programmed
>into some of the more advanced TTL meters for long aperture priority exposures.
>   I conducted a little test this afternoon with my Pentax analog
>spotmeter and my LX. The spotmeter was recently calibrated by Light
>Metrics, a company that specializes in photographic meter repair and
>calibration. The LX was recently calibrated at Pentax USA, and it
>delivers very good exposures with transparency film. I mounted a 200mm
>lens on the LX, loaded it with Ektachrome 100VS, and positioned a gray
>card in a dim room. With the asa set at 100, and the lens stopped down
>to f11, the LX exposed the film for 21 seconds. The ambient light
>reading on the spotmeter indicated an exposure of 6 seconds, about 1 1/2
>stops less. This is in keeping with the values on the Adams chart. Of
>course the spotmeter cannot be calibrated to correct for reciprocity,
>because it doesn't know what aperture I'm going to choose. After writing
>down these values, I moved the gray card to an area with more light,
>changed the LX meter to 1600asa and made another exposure. The LX meter
>indicated 1/30 second at f11, and the audible results of an aperture
>priority exposure seemed to confirm it (although I obviously can't be
>certain that it was exactly 1/30 second). The spotmeter indicated
>exactly the same exposure f11 at 1/30 second for 1600 asa. Based on this
>single experiment, I suspect that the LX meter is programmed to correct
>for reciprocity failure when making long exposures in aperture priority mode.
>
>
>Raimo Korhonen wrote:
>> 
>> Reciprocity failure is not taken into account because of different characteristics 
>of the photocell and films - and all films are different. Actually even different 
>layers of film react differently so reciprocity failure affects colour balance - and 
>this cannot be taken into account by TTL metering. Actually today´s films are so good 
>and the amount of variables so large that it is impossible for an amateur to 
>establish the effects of reciprocity failure.
>> All the best!
>> Raimo
>> Personal photography homepage at http://personal.inet.fi/private/raimo.korhonen
>> 



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