Mafud, you seem to have one large axe to grind! Oh how in the world can you
derive so much, so wrongly, from so few words that I wrote?
Your ideas below are either anachronistic, or just plain wrong (especially
regarding your perception of my station in life). Therefore, I refuse to
give any further credence to your tirade by ignoring your misplaced and
intentionally offensive ramblings. So, go climb back in YOUR utopian hole
of mid-20th century servitude of the masses to the conglomerates of
industry, paying homage to management every time they whip you with a stick
for punching that clock 5 minutes late in the morning. I'll take my 21st
century expectations of work satisfaction to the nearest employer that
shares the same, and trust me there are enough of them. :)
BTW, When was the last decade in which you held a real corporate job? The
1950s?
Gerald
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 9:22 PM
Subject: Re: OT: Re: My job sucks (would you like some cheese with your
whine)
> In a message dated 1/31/01 7:30:14 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> writes:
> <<this is exactly the kind of mentality that the CEOs of corporate America
> would love to return to: ala the workforce of the 1990 recession, happy
just
> to have a job, willing to take pay cuts along with more work hours, and
say
> "thank you" and the end of the grueling soul-destroying day.>>
>
> You're spoiled. *Unrewarding* hard work is "soul-destroying", no matter
what
> that labor might be. How can an expression such as "Please be thankful you
> have jobs" set you off so? I sense you either came from a well to do
family,
> or your folks were so dirt poor you (and Richard Nixon) have vowed to
despise
> poverty and the people who live in those conditions. How else can you so
> easily spout such invectives against a person who may have just suffered a
> long bout of unemployment? Or had you considered there are people in
America,
> who, whatever their station, (and unlike you) who actually *like* being
able
> to work, and on waking, praise their Creator for letting them wake so they
> can rise into the glorious day given them so they *can* go to work? Nah,
such
> simplistic faith in the American ideal is beyond you, reference your early
> comment above.
>
> <>
>
> You are *not* "doing an employer a favor" in that they can find your
> well-educated kind in any serious employees jobs bank. For the past fifty
or
> so years, there have been more qualified people looking for work than
jobs.
> The Clinton administration changed that equation somewhat. From about 1892
to
> about 1995, America graduated 18,000 PhDs' every year in a jobs market
with
> only 11,000 Ph.D. openings.
> *While many computer owners despise Microsoft and Bill Gates, that cadre
of
> Americans and those like them, fueled the roaring American economy we've
all
> enjoyed these past eight years.
> **I make a note that as soon as Americans (and the stock market) sensed
> George "Dubya" Bush had a real chance, the stock market headed south,
taking
> jobs** with it.
> **138,000 high tech and middle to upper level management jobs since the
> beginning of the year. Prognostication for the year 2001? As of the first
of
> the year, more than 600,000 highly skilled, highly educated (you come
swiftly
> to my mind) employees will be laid off. Gerald, can you say: "Got
parachute?"
> But with your mean spirit, you probably need to work for yourself. That
way,
> you would have no one to blame for the boss' poor attitude, sorry work
> conditions (and stingy purse strings) but yourself.
>
> <<Unlike the barely skilled autoworker, I went to college for 15 years in
> order to have a career that would remain fruitful and enjoyable.>>
>
> Get thee hence to a nunnery (or winery), where you could drink your
imagined
> troubles into submission. Or does it take money to make things "fruitful
and
> enjoyable" for you?"
>
> <<While the money is still present, the enjoyment here is going. All my
hard
> work
> educating myself to be productive should get me more respect than it does
> around this place.>>
>
> You actually expected *work* to be enjoyable *AND* respectful? Change
jobs,
> find a field where you can express yourself.
> *Carve totems to your self-pitying ego in your spare time.
>
> <<BTW, the hand-writing has been on the wall for some years now regarding
> barely skilled workers like autoworkers - their labor rates are too high
> compared to most of the rest of the world, and downsizing (and
outsourcing)
> is then a natural course of events.>>
>
> Spoken like a true capitalist-Republican snot-nose: "They" (unskilled
> laborers) are literally taking money out of your pockets to line theirs.
>
> <<One can thank the UAW for making this type of labor so expensive. Why
> should some unskilled worker in Detroit earn more than a high tech worker
> with advanced degrees and capabilities an auto worker can't even dream of
> acquiring? It just doesn't make any logical sense.
>
> Cheers,
> Gerald >>
>
> Gerald, that is utterly corrosive, ill-tempered and contemptible. This
> country and its real religion (capitalism) thrives on the kind strife you
are
> promoting here. Classism it's called, a classist, ill tempered social
> phenomenon that is nearly as invidious a national character trait as
> America's blatant racism.
> *Since 3 million of the "auto workers" you are railing against, American
> workers who were displaced when "free-marketeers" (capitalists) sent their
> jobs overseas, are of African heritage, I sense your angst about auto
workers
> (and probably unions) is race based, more than any expressed anger over
their
> wages or benefits.
> FYI: if you want to blame "auto workers" (Union members) for something,
> remember too it was their rising wage tide that lifted a hell of a lot of
> boats in America.
> Blame them if you would, for fighting for a living wage for *all*
Americans,
> for on the job and continuing health care, 401k retirement plans, day
care,
> homeless shelters, battered women shelters and other American worker's
> benefits organized labor is responsible for.
> But is your anger also directed toward persons who worked as hard as you
and
> earned the same degrees as you, but chose instead to work in professions
that
> do not pay great salaries, but yet satisfies their inner being, thus
earning
> them rewards beyond your means to contemplate?
> What is so bad about the "autoworker" (Africana) (union worker) making a
> living wage, as opposed to them being the earthen slugs you apparently
> (understatement) think they are, people who should only earn subsistence
> wages so you can enrich your pockets and salve your massive, excessively
> bloated ego?
>
> You should be crowned the "King of self-pity"; or named the poster child
for
> the "Get a life" movement.
> *You could always get a part-time job as a Republican huckster...or Klan
> spokesman.
>
> Mafud
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