OK, I have a question, which of these meterless cameras automatically stops
the lens down during exposure via the pin on the back of the lens?  Do any
of these still have the stop-down switch (for DOF preview)?  I gather the
SL does all of this, as it's the same as the Spotmatic but without a meter.
 Any others?  TIA.

Todd


At 09:45 AM 2/10/01 -0600, you wrote:
>On Sat, 10 Feb 2001, Peter Loveday wrote:
>
>> I'm looking to get myself a screw-mount camera, and I find myself
>> rather attracted to the idea of having one with no meter.  I like the
>> idea of going out with glass, metal and no batteries, with a simple
>> hand-held meter to get a real feeling for exposure. (I enjoy using
>> hi-tech cameras, and fully plan to get an MZ-S shortly, but I feel I'd
>> like to have something more basic for those for philosophical times).
>
>Good for you!  Philosophical Man cannot live on MZ-S's alone.  Automatic
>functions are an extremely useful tool, but there are times when I just
>feel like going back to the basics.
> 
>> However, I find myself having very little knowledge of anything pre K
>> Mount.  Looking at the list on the AOHC page, it seems the 'best'
>> models are the SV/H3v S1a/H1a. However it indicates that their are
>> differences between 'early' and 'late' ones.
>> 
>> Is there any way to tell the difference here?
>
>The only thing I can think of is that the later SV's have an orange "R" on
>the rewind knob instead of a green one.  The orange one means that they
>can accept the 50/1.4, while the green-lettered ones cannot.
> 
>> What camera should I be looking for?  I want something 100%
>> mechanical, no meter, but fairly 'standard' if possible. ie,
>> preferably all the shutter speeds on one dial, 1000th shutter if
>> possible, etc.
>
>You have a few choices here.  My first pre-Spotmatic Pentax was an S3, and
>it's a great example of a simple, basic SLR.  Shutter speeds up to 1/1000,
>a cool self-advancing film counter, and nuthin' else.  If you want
>something even neater, get an SV.  That has the weirdest self-timer I've
>seen, plus a (supposedly) brighter viewfinder than the S3, though I can't
>really notice a difference.  The S1a is a scaled down SV without the
>self-timer.  Even though its shutter speed dial only goes up to 1/500,
>you can use a 1/1000 speed by turning it one click past the
>"500" setting.  (This 1/1000 may not be completely accurate.)
>
>That being said, one of the nicer ones I have is a black H2 that sounds
>almost like a rangefinder at high shutter speeds.  But to start off with,
>I'd recommend either an S3 or an SV.
>
>> I've seen the recent discussion, and it sounds like the 55/1.8 and
>> 35/3.5 are nice.  Is there a nice lens down around 24 or 20 ?  Also
>> something around 100 or 120 ? I hope to find SMC-Tak versions of
>> whatever lenses I decide on, if this makes a difference.
>
>Pentax made both a 20/4.5 and a 24/3.5 SMC-T, as well as a 17/4 SMC-T
>fisheye.  Then there's the excellent 105/2.8 SMC-T, as well as two
>different 135mm SMC-T's (f2.5 and f3.5).  I know nothing about the f2.5
>version, but the f3.5 one is very common and inexpensive, and is actually
>quite sharp from what I've seen.
> 
>> Thanks for any suggestions or input.
>
>Always glad to be an Enabler.  :)
>
>chris
>

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