In a message dated 2/17/01 2:42:29 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

<< Subj:     Re: Bodies Roll Call UPDATE 59
 Date:  2/17/01 2:42:29 AM Eastern Standard Time
 From:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michel Adam)
 
 <<My point is, even within the same newspaper, you can usually tell what
 was done with a digital camera vs. the classical one.>>

Oh I agree.

<<The moment they have to enlarge a digital image, they introduce artifacts. 
They are dealing with very large discrete pixels, which will be interpolated 
when enlarged. The data between two pixels is JUST NOT THERE to begin with, 
and it shows. The fact that they don't give a dam about quality just compound 
the effect.>>

Agree. But in most instances, it ~is~ a daily newspaper, bound to be perused 
then thrown away within hours. That is why I, as a publisher of a weekly 
newspaper, ~did~ care because our patrons almost always kept each edition for 
weeks or sent the paper overseas, risking tearing thus we were forced to 
carry newsprint with rag content.

<<Twenty or thirty years from now, some student writting a thesis will study 
the newspaper archives, and plot a graph of the quality of images over time. 
There will be a big dip at the introduction of the D1.>>

I gleefully agree.
 
<<How long this dip will last, who knows.>>

With the majors now printing on up to 40% recycled newsprint, paper so porous 
it actually turns brown* in your driveway in mere minutes (under a bright 
Sun), you can expect the digital images will ~not~ improve, though the image 
makers will.
*Not only does it nearly brown as you look at it, it sometime crumbles as you 
read it! WAHH!

As I have continually noted, "Digital" photography really means medium format 
or 4 x 5, not "small format" APS sized CCDs.

As long as no one comes up with a way to shrink the real size of pixels, 
~small format~ digital will always be for PJs and amateurs. I do note that 
small format digital has become a working tool for hospitals, law 
enforcement, insurance and real estate agents, temporary ID badges, surgical 
rooms, and a host of other places and venues, including camera to computer to 
Internet use for the ordinary consumer, particularly for Auction sales, and a 
host of other applications where the veracity of the image and image quality 
are neither questioned or required. 

 ----- Original Message ----- 
 From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 5:49 PM
 Subject: Re: Bodies Roll Call UPDATE 59
 
 
 > In a message dated 2/16/01 7:21:44 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 > writes:
 > 
 > << And if the results of all those N* D1 pictures I see in the newspaper 
are 
 > any indication, you can spot that crappy quality all the time. >>
 > 
 > I don't want anyone to think I've gone soft on digital just because I say: 
 > what else would you expect the images to look like, when they are printed 
on 
 > 30% recycled ~newsprint~? 
 > 
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Mafud
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