Pål wrote:
Lasse wrote:
> Is this a good idea or not?

Pål wrote:
Not.
It seems to me that this time fewer defend the "right" to post OT messages.

I write:
There seems to be a confusion on the labels here. By the FAQ of PDML at Pentax there 
was an explicit "right" for us to post OT-messages. We were however adviced to label 
them such.

As far as I recall, although I may be mistaken, OT-messages were defined as messages 
not dealing specifically with Pentaxiana (cameras, lenses, accessories, business) but 
with other photography related issues. In my interpretation they would for instance 
include messages on processing, optics, digital image manipulation, computer specs, 
software, general photography, photographers, climate-issues, personal stories etc.
Labeling practice, both at Pentax and under current administration, seems to indicate 
that a majority(?) of members do not regard the above topics as "off topics", but 
rather as "on topics".

What was adressed by Fred in the  "There's OK...etc"-thread, were so called OL, "off 
list", messages. Those are messages with no photography content at all.
(My suggestion is that we, according to Fred's outline, establish the label OL as in 
"off list" for these messages.)
I assume that you Pål, by "OT-messages" are talking about these now so called 
OL-messages.(?)

Pål wrote:
With a slight and friendly complaint (like we've seen now) most will comply.

I write:
To judge from experience, I am not sure we will. :) Let's hope we do.

Pål continued:
Anyway, now that we have a participating list maintainer, he could (if he wanted to) 
take measures if thing get out of hand.

I write:
My guess is that Doug the least of all wants to exercise his moderator capacity. My 
idea was to help us all, and Doug, to eliminate the need for it.

Pål wrote:
I believe everybody realize that too much OT ruin the purpose and value of this forum.

I write:
I hope you are right, but although this has been "realized upon" many times in past, 
we are still facing this problem, which has been more or less permanent at least for 
the two years that I've been here.
There are simply too many messages, and specifically too great a percentage of 
postings of almost no meaningful content.
My suggestion of a maximum of 5 (or maybe 7-8) postings a day, would quite effectively 
deal with this problem. I don't think that members individually, or the list as a 
whole, would suffer much from such a self imposed, still rather loose, restriction of 
the number of messages.
(Not a big deal for me, but I do think it would make the problem a lesser one.)

Lasse

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