The very scary part is no government ever gives up power willingly once they have obtained it.
But then, the anti-gun, and many pro-gun people, are quit willing to except a large proportion of our population from ex-post-facto protection. The anti-pornographers think that certain people should be excepted from freedom-of-speech. The anti-drug people think certain people should be excepted from search-and-seizure protection. The religious right thinks that freedom-of-religion should not be allowed. There is always a seemingly good reason for excepting certain people from the rights others have. Unfortunately, eventually it gets down to excepting you from the rights you thought you had. The problem is that old joke "when they arrested... I said nothing..." is more true than it is funny. Ciao, Graywolf http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alin Flaider" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 4:32 AM Subject: Re: OT: Summing Up (Security Whining) > > Glenn, for what it's worth you're not alone: > http://www.2600.com/news/display/display.shtml?id=1441 > > Living in a formerly communist country, I can only be disappointed > how fast "our" bad habits can spread in an old democracy. > Am I glad no one noticed me taking pictures at midnight on the > Brooklyn Bridge one month ago... being an alien wouldn't have add to > the politeness of the police, would it... > > Servus, Alin > > dglenn wrote: > > drn> Some of this is a little stale, and some is off-topic ... my > drn> intent here is not to restart the thread, but to do a little > drn> summing up. Not in the sense of trying to get the last word, > drn> but in the sense of answering questions and implied questions > drn> that I hadn't gotten around to answering, and filling in a wee > drn> bit of info learned later... > > drn> I got the contact sheet back from that roll of film I shot in > drn> the fog, the one that got me detained by the Baltimore police. > drn> I also drove back down to the harbour in clear weather to find > drn> out which building is the Baltimore WTC. > > drn> You cannot see the building in the shot, at least not on the > drn> contact sheet. If the shadow on the far left of the frame turns > drn> out to be the edge of the building, and if the lab is able to > drn> bring out any detail in the 8x10 I ordered, I'll let folks know. > drn> But I don't think the building itself actually enters the frame, > drn> and this was with a 24mm lens, so I had to be pointed a decent > drn> angle away from the building. You can barely see the pedestrian > drn> bridge that I was interested in (though there's a little more > drn> detail on the neg than on the contact). > > drn> An illuminated sign which was unreadable in the fog (in person > drn> and on the negative) turns out to _say_ "World Trade Center", > drn> but all it said that night was, "There's a glowing circle here." > > drn> All in all, I got seven other shots on that roll that I'd really > drn> like to see enlarged ifwhen I come up with some extra money for > drn> printing. And most of the stuff worth looking at twice was from > drn> what I shot at St. Timothy's Episcopal Church in Catonsville. > drn> (Two frames show the front of the church in halfway decent > drn> detail, with other prominent features blurry in the background, > drn> and an orange glow on one side of the building (probably Na > drn> vapour lamps?) and a greenish blue glow on the other (Hg vapour > drn> lamps?). The two different colours on opposite ends of the > drn> photo looks kind of nifty to me. I also got a cool backlit > drn> tree. None of the street scenes in Catonsville were worth > drn> printing. Live and learn. The Power Plant at the Inner Harbor, > drn> with its ESPN Zone and Hard Rock Cafe neon, which I shot just > drn> before the frame that got me in trouble, might be interesting > drn> printed large. > > drn> Seven "worth a second look" out of 24 exposures was better than > drn> I'd expected from that roll, honestly. >
