My fault, Glen.

I noticed you mentioning working with the homeless, and my hat is off to you
for that. I probably would not have the patience.

My comments were not addressed to you personally, but were of a more general
nature. One of the problems with a list conversation, unless one is very
careful, it is easy to take a general statement personally. Both side should
try to make it clear where they are coming from. I did not do that. My
apologies, if you took it as a personal attack.

Ciao,
Graywolf
http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto


----- Original Message -----
From: "Glen O'Neal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 10:35 AM
Subject: RE: My new Pentax-A* 300 f/4 and an interesting shot


> Tom,
>
> Thank you for your words. I think I understand what you are saying. I have
> worked with the homeless for nearly ten years in several shelters (in
> several cities) and with groups that try to help provide for their needs.
As
> I mentioned in my first note we have a local group that helps out when we
> can. We are not affiliated with any organization. We like to determine
> ourselves what we can do for them without the "help" of any government or
> civic agency. We were started by a little Chinese woman with a very big
> heart who runs a dress shop in my hometown. Her name is Kim. We take them
> coats, gloves, blankets, food and other personal needs items. We try to
help
> the ones who can work find jobs. We try to help reestablish relationships
> with those who have been forgotten by their families or can't find them.
We
> work to get rehabilitative assistance for the chemically dependant and
> emotional help for those with emotional or psychiatric difficulties. We
work
> to get financial assistance from the government to those we can get
> permanently located. I have known some of them personally, have had them
in
> my home for a meal or fed them at the Denny's where I meet with them on
> Tuesday and Friday mornings. The people at Denny's get real ticked at me
but
> I don't care. Some are afraid, some are mad, and yes some are mentally
> handicapped or dependent on chemicals. But they (almost) all need help. My
> camera has sometimes been an introduction to a new friend. I take the
> pictures so that we can put a few at a time up in the store where Kim
works.
> A lot of people in suburbia never see someone this unfortunate and if they
> did they might just look the other way. So thoughts of their needs never
> enters their mind nor would they know how to help. When they see a picture
> at the store and ask about it, Kim shows them an album we have showing
what
> we do and often people give a donation to help. We don't make a big deal
> about what we do. We don't go out and solicit assistance. Most of what we
> have to give comes from our own pockets or donations made at Kim's dress
> shop. I feel it would be wrong to look the other way and ignore when
seeing
> someone who needs help. I would rather look through a lens and then keep
> looking for a new ways to provide assistance. Now my son is getting
involved
> and helping out at the shelter.
>
> By the way, I am glad you are doing better and hope the driving school is
> going well. I still hold my CDL having gone through the Swift driving
school
> in Ft. Scott, Kansas and driving for them for some time. Life on the road
is
> hard, very hard, but it can be a real adventure if you look for
> opportunities to find the experiences that make it fun as well.
>
> Glen
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: T Rittenhouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 7:35 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: My new Pentax-A* 300 f/4 and an interesting shot
>
>
> IMNSHO, having been there a time or two in my life, I can tell you the
down
> and out really like people sniping them with a 300mm lens. It helps keep
> their paranoia at a high level which is probably a survival factor. But,
as
> a former street (road, actually) person I do so like to snap yuppie
> photographers when I find them in embarrassing situations, and posting
them
> on the web. Make no mistake, unless they are far gone into insanity,
drugs,
> or alcohol, street people are embarrassed by their situation.
>
> I never have figured out the faciation of photographing the destitude,
> unless it is the feeling that they can't afford an attorney and therefore
> will not wind up sueing the photographer.
>
> Ciao,
> Graywolf
> http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Glen O'Neal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 12:46 AM
> Subject: My new Pentax-A* 300 f/4 and an interesting shot
>
>
> > I got my new A* 300 f/4 a few days ago and finally got the opportunity
to
> > take it out for a spin today. I like to go up into the city and
photograph
> > the homeless on the streets of our town. We have a local group that
brings
> > them help whenever possible. I have taken quite a few images of them,
but
> > two that I am particularly fond of are listed below. The second shot is
> the
> > one I took around 4:00pm this afternoon. I had no idea the poster was
> behind
> > this gentleman as I exposed the image. I didn't realize it's presence
> until
> > I picked the prints up from the photo lab this evening. All I could
think
> > was "what a coincidence". By the way, the "no parking" sign in the other
> > image was a complete accident as well, but it says so much about the
> plight
> > of the homeless everywhere. They are constantly having to move on to
avoid
> > loitering charges. They literally have no place to "park".
> >
> > I am searching for a title for the new picture. Any suggestions would be
> > greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Glen
> >
> > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=1070436
> >
> > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=1178334
> >
>

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