It only leads to the 'Golden Section' because you want it to Herb. Nature
does not obey numbers! There is nothing special about those numbers at all.
But there may well be something very special about a thing they may have
been used to describe.

There are many ways in which a picture may be presented in a pleasing way.
The 'golden' way is only one example. We all know that numbers are among the
symbols of a special universal language called Mathematics. The numbers
themselves have no special quality. Games have been played with these
symbols for a long time. Thousands of books have been written, and read too,
on how numbers affect our lives. I saw, recently, a book about the secret
code of the bible - number nonsense taken to an extreme. The only valid
statements that can be made about it is that it is a book, printed on paper
and seems to have made money for the author and publisher. But it is only
one of a long string of them going back for decades.

When you say that these special numbers occur in nature what you're actually
saying is that they have some kind of magical or special aesthetic quality.
Yes? Its the other way around. The numbers derive from the way nature is
arranged. Looking at an X-ray diffraction pattern, or the arrangement of
atoms in an electron micrograph, or the number of electrons in the shells
about an atom, virus particles, or the incredible DNA molecule. Or even
counting the number of coils in a sea-snail shell, or measuring snow
crystals, and finally dividing, multiplying, solving quadratics,
differentiating, integrating, and ending with some numbers that you conclude
represent some kind of a 'golden rule of nature' is comparable to the secret
worship of numbers by the Pythagoreans.

There is no example of a golden section in nature. For every one you can
make fit the rule by manipulating it into the shape of a rectangle, millions
can be found that simply don't match. And I add, although this might be a
little out of place here, during the last 45 years or so pictorial
'fractals' have been appended to the 'number magic' quiver. The 'Golden
Section' has no more aesthetic validity than the universal magic word
abracadabra.

I remember vividly one particular middle-school art class. We had a teacher
with long hair and dirty fingernails. He could draw. But seemed unable to
shave or visit a barber. My goodness but he could draw! He used pastels on
huge sheets of paper. That day he put a house, and a tree, and a picket
fence; a road some figures, a few cows and a horse on his drawing. All were
rough outlines to start with and they were nicely arranged. He told us that
day ~not~ to put things in the middle of the paper unless it was a portrait
because our picture might be boring. He did not divide the sheet with
compass and ruler and talk about golden sections  - ever. His name was
William Bruce Frank. I asked for, and was given that finished pastel, and
had it until about 20 years ago when it was lost in our move to these cold
climes.

>From ancient times people have been chasing magical numbers. The
Pythagoreans formed, in fact they ~were~ a secret religious society, and
they had strange ideas about numbers. Some numbers were 'Good' others were
'Evil' - Good and Evil were entirely separate sets of numbers. But one day
the poor
buggers found, to their dismay, while messing about with their magic, that
Good was also Evil. I could post an excerpt from one of my books (on my
website) in which I touch briefly upon the matter - if anyone is the
~slightest~ bit interested. Many authors have written about this 'Good and
Evil' number thing and references can be found by the hundred if anyone is
interested.

But as I said, this is really quite a load and will lead nowhere. Some
members will go so far as to post with ~other member's names~ in the subject
line.

Don

Dr E D F Williams

http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams
Author's Web Site and Photo Gallery
Updated: March 30, 2002


----- Original Message -----
From: "Herb Chong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2002 12:26 AM
Subject: Dr E D F Williams


> Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Sorry to have offended you. Any subject bearing on composition in
> photography is on topic here. If this becomes too upsetting for you, I'm
> sure there are other lists where your judgments of others posts will
> appreciated.
>
> Regards,
> Bob....<
>
> Don is also ignoring some basic molecular biology and crystallography.
face
> centered cubic structures pack naturally in a way that leads to the golden
> section and that is why the form appears in nature.
>
> Herb....
>
>


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