Tom, I said "any pure beer" - most European beers follow the Bavarian Purity Law (created in the 1500's IIRC)which makes them a "pure" beer - Grolsch being one of these beers. Almost all beers out of Belgium and Holland and Germany are like this.
I guess what could be said is that any large brewed mass consumed North American beer isn't as good as any pure beer - I'm sure the reason you're drinking Grolsch is because you enjoy the taste. I'd dare say that you could not find any beer from Anheuser Busch or Miller that tastes anywhere near the same. Cheers, Dave -----Original Message----- From: T Rittenhouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 2:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Beer and Pentaxians Well, I guess I will have to sue Grolsh, because on the bottle it says contains "water, malted barley, and hops." (I presume the yeast is filtered out before bottling) it mentions nothing about those preservatives and stuff you are talking about. And I take issue with your home brew is better than any mass produced beer statement also, I have never had a home brewed lager that was anywhere near as good as many Northern European lagers are. Obviously you like heavy sweet beer. Ciao, Graywolf http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Chang-Sang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 2:01 PM Subject: RE: Beer and Pentaxians > Keith, > > Hate to break it to you but if you're drinking "real" beer.. and you're > drinking a large brewery beer.. there are plenty of chemicals and additives > put into that beer in order to extend shelf life, maintain carbonation etc. > So it's no wonder that any of the home brews or micro brews you've tasted > don't compare. > > Just about any pure beer - and that includes micro/home brews - is more what > a "real beer" should taste like and not like the over carbonated soda pop > style of beer that is "Molson's" or "Labatt's" or "Budweiser" etc. > > Cheers, > Dave > > -----Original Message----- > From: Keith Whaley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 1:41 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Beer and Pentaxians > > > > > Timothy Sherburne wrote: > > > > The light American pilsner has its place: Served ice-cold on a hot day, > > perhaps on a golf course or after mowing the lawn. For me, though, a fine > > porter or nut brown is the best, but I appreciate a wide variety. And I've > > become spoiled living in Portland with so many excellent choices close at > > hand. > > > > Twelve years ago, my father-in-law, several friends and myself took a > > brewing class sponsored by the local parks and recreation department. It > > changed the way I looked at beer. Lo' and behold! There existed a whole > > world of choice beyond the twenty light pilsners stocked by the local > > grocer. > > > > At the time, people had a sense of awe when they found out you could brew > > your own beer, as if you were an alchemist that could magically conjure > beer > > from the elements. Now, it seems that everyone has tried the > "beer-in-a-bag" > > and the mystery is over. > > Not at all! > The real mystery is why no-one can brew a beer at home nor can the > 'fake beer' manufacturers, that tastes like real beer! > All the fake beers have a cereal after-taste, as do many home-brews. > I've tasted home-brews til my cup overfloweth, and literally every > non-beer on the market, and NONE of them are real beers. > And I've been drinking beer since 1943, and all over the world, so I > do know what 'real' beer should taste like... > IMHO, of course... > > keith whaley > > > On 1/4/03 7:25 AM, Steve Desjardins wrote: > > > > > I don't brew my own (yet) but I do have a story. At a New Year's Day > > > party, my host offered my a Michelob Ultra, the low carb beer. (I am > > > watching my calories, BTW, so this wasn't idle cruelty). Having said > > > this, I defy anyone to find anything with the word "beer" on the label > > > that tastes more like soda water. It wasn't unpleasant; almost anything > > > cold, wet and fizzy is refreshing. It's just not "beer". Truly, folks, > > > I suppose there is some alcohol, but if you want the great beer > > > non-experience, this is the one for you. > > > > > > >
