Rob,
Thanks for information.
I think wrt fisheye, the biggest question for me is its performance
off-center, because that's where the biggest hit is in remapping (btw, I use
the "PanoramaTools" plugins). I have found that, in fact, often I prefer
cyllindrical projection to both, fisheye and rectilinear -- it looks most
natural to me. So it would seem that a fisheye is the best choice since it
allows the greater flexibility wrt the final result. However I found Zenitar
way too sofft off center, which magnifies a lot after the remapping .

I guess, now my questions would be, do you know which one would give a
better corner performance, 17mm/4 or 16mm/2.8 fisheye? Also, I understand
that the biggest drawback of SLR ultrawides is distortion -- how bad is it
in 15mm/3.5? Again, if it's predictable (read: can be removed in photoshop),
it's not a problem.

Best,
Mishka

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mishka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 10:46 AM
Subject: Re: ultrawide lens questions


> On 9 Feb 2003 at 2:07, Mishka wrote:
>
> > Rob,
> > As I mentioned, I am looking for something *really* wide. My widest lens
now is
> > 24mm, and I have played for a while with 20mm Mir, but decided that I
need
> > better quality (both mechanical and optical).  The intended use is for
either
> > interior, or for "near-far" shots. My film ends up scanned, and that's
why I am
> > considering rectilinear lenses as well as fisheyes -- I can remap them
in
> > photoshop. I tried that with Zenitar fisheye and it seem to work OK. But
Zenitar
> > had its own problems, so I had decided to get something either SMC --
until I
> > ran into a very positive review of Voigtlander lenses, which seem to be
> > relatively inexpensive for what they promise. I appreciate any advice.
>
> Hi Mishka,
>
> Well for me it really comes down to wether you need to see the view
through the
> finder. A lot is revealed WRT flare using an SLR and near-far composition
is
> virtually a guess using a range finder due to parallax errors between the
> finder and taking lens. Also it very hard to compare a fisheye against a
15mm
> rectilinear, a rectilinear re-mapped image from a fisheye makes a 15mm
rect
> look like a telephoto :-(
>
> Use the right film and apply your re-mapping algorithm well (and correct
for
> chromatic separation) and you can end up with very good results from a
Pentax
> 16/2.8. I owned a Hologon for four years and whilst its optical
characteristics
> were excellent I was often a little disappointed with surprises due to
flare
> and parallax as I mentioned. The 15mm is wide but no where near the 12mm
Voigt
> however it isn't such a problem WRT edge illumination either. So I guess
you'll
> really have to base your decision on the most demanding use for the lens
then
> select a lens that will be least compromising in that application.
>
> Rob Studdert
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