I have the 17mm f4 and I'm quite pleased with it. It is sharp and exhibits very
little flare. I should think that you would be able to find it for a bit less
than the other lenses on you list.

At 08:04 PM 2/7/2003 -0500, you wrote:
for some time now i have been looking for an ultrawide lens (18mm and
wider). i seem to somewhat narrowed my list of choices:

pentax 15mm/3.5
voigtlander 15mm or 12mm
pentax fisheye 17mm/4
pentax fisheye 16mm/2.8

does anyone here have experience with these? the review on luminous
landscape gives voigtlander 12mm quite a bit of praise, but i am curious,
how they compare to pentax 15mm (the designs are obviously very different).
pls, no usual "go try them both and see for yourself" :)

also, i have been enjoying zenitar 16mm full frame fisheye for quite some
time now, and with a little help of photoshop, it too is capable to give
some pretty wide images with very little distortion. has anyone here tried
to compare quality-wise remapped fisheye images with true wide-angle shots
at, say, 15mm? -- all my film ends up scanned anyway.

and, finally, did anyone tried both, zenitar and pentax fisheyes side by
side? does pentax worth the premium? and, quality-wise, which pentax one is
better, 17mm or 16mm?

ufff... now back to scanning.

best,
mishka
Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend.
    Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.  --Groucho Marx

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