>> >LOL. Depends how you define 'civilisation'.....
>
>> that which the English and Japanese practice that the Americans try to
>imitate.
>
>How about the French?
>Better wine, better cheese and better food than the English.

Now see here old man! Better cheese?? I'd dispute that, but the rest is 
perfectly true. I often dream of cashing in (hah!) and burying myself 
into a tumbledown cottage near Saumur.

Cotte

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